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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Hi All,

Happy New Year!

We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!

Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?

Thanks Bob


Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

I’d try my nearest auto parts store.

John Hart
KF !V
Wilburton, OK

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Subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912

Hi All,



Happy New Year!



We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!



Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?



Thanks Bob





Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Rotax went to a higher pressure radiator cap for 912s a few years ago to
allow a little hotter coolant temp before boil over.

Thought it was less than $80 from Lockwood, in sebring Florida.

BJ
Kitfox IV 912/80 hp.

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Hi All,

Happy New Year!

We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they
want $80 for one radiator cap!!

Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?

Thanks Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

I get mine at the auto parts store for $6.

Pete
Kitfox III 912

On 1/11/2012 4:25 PM, rtmarshall wrote: [quote] Hi All,

Happy New Year!

We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!

Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?

Thanks Bob


Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square inches.

18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6

17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K

I’d try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.

John Hart
KFIV
Wilburton, OK


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Subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912

Hi All,



Happy New Year!



We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!



Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?



Thanks Bob





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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

I find this interesting. Kitfoxes generally - at least the earlier ones
with 912 and the external radiator run a bit on the cool side. Is there
another advantage for the high priced high temp thermostat? As mentioned, I
would go to the nearest auto parts store, but good luck there. If It isn't
in their computer matched with make model and year they might just shoo you
away as my two local stores did a while ago.
Lowell

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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:40 PM
To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912

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Rotax went to a higher pressure radiator cap for 912s a few years ago to
allow a little hotter coolant temp before boil over.

Thought it was less than $80 from Lockwood, in sebring Florida.

BJ
Kitfox IV 912/80 hp.

> Hi All,
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they
> want $80 for one radiator cap!!
>
> Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?
>
> Thanks Bob
> Toodie & Bob Marshall
> Beckwourth, CA
> KF/4/1200 flying




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Thanks lowell, I am sure you are right, a fellow on the list has provided
some great info and I am on the hunt. Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying

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Subject: Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912



I find this interesting. Kitfoxes generally - at least the earlier ones
with 912 and the external radiator run a bit on the cool side. Is there
another advantage for the high priced high temp thermostat? As mentioned, I
would go to the nearest auto parts store, but good luck there. If It isn't
in their computer matched with make model and year they might just shoo you
away as my two local stores did a while ago.
Lowell

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From: <bjones(at)dmv.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:40 PM
To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912

Quote:


Rotax went to a higher pressure radiator cap for 912s a few years ago to
allow a little hotter coolant temp before boil over.

Thought it was less than $80 from Lockwood, in sebring Florida.

BJ
Kitfox IV 912/80 hp.

> Hi All,
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they
> want $80 for one radiator cap!!
>
> Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?
>
> Thanks Bob
> Toodie & Bob Marshall
> Beckwourth, CA
> KF/4/1200 flying


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Hi John, The problem that I think I will have is that the coolant tank radiator cap is about 1/2 the size of a standard cap. I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size, I am not totally toast yet, but I am losing small amounts of coolant and it could be that all the air is not out of the system yet, as I changed to dextron which has seemed to help but it is 16 to 24 * F up here so it is hard to tell at this point, I thought I would toss a new cap on just for grins but the old one certainly looks good at the moment. Thanks for everybody's help once again. This is the older 912. Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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From: John W. Hart (helili(at)chahtatushka.net)
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:30 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912




After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square inches.

18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6

17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K

I’d try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.

John Hart
KFIV
Wilburton, OK


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Subject: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912



Hi All,



Happy New Year!



We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!



Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?



Thanks Bob





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Beckwourth, CA
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

On 1/11/2012 8:50 PM, rtmarshall wrote:
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I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size,

Hey my Acura has a teeny tiny radiator cap. I'll check it tomorrow.

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Now a glider pilot, too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

I replaced all hoses and installed an in-line water temp sending unit per
Rotax/Lockwood suggestions, and about 30 hours later had to retighten
clamps because of very slight coolant loss. I never saw signs of coolant
on any pipe, hose, clamp, but retightening the clamps did the trick.

As an aside, the in-line water temp is a bit HIGHER than the CHT mounted
reading, even when gauges and sending units are switched, so an error in
sending units, cables and gauges is not the cause. I use UMA gauges and
matched sending units.

BJ
Kitfox IV with early S/N Rotax 912 80 hp

Quote:
Hi John, The problem that I think I will have is that the coolant tank
radiator cap is about 1/2 the size of a standard cap. I know of a great
radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made
exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that
may have a cap this size, I am not totally toast yet, but I am losing
small amounts of coolant and it could be that all the air is not out of
the system yet, as I changed to dextron which has seemed to help but it is
16 to 24 * F up here so it is hard to tell at this point, I thought I
would toss a new cap on just for grins but the old one certainly looks
good at the moment. Thanks for everybody's help once again. This is the
older 912. Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
From: John W. Hart
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:30 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912
After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar
for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square
inches.

18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6

17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K

I'd try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your
local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.

John Hart

KFIV

Wilburton, OK

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rtmarshall
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:25 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912

Hi All,

Happy New Year!

We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they
want $80 for one radiator cap!!

Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?

Thanks Bob

Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

John, this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would occasionally leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement. It was from a Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe someone else has the info.
Lowell


From: rtmarshall (rtav8or2(at)psln.com)
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:50 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912


Hi John, The problem that I think I will have is that the coolant tank radiator cap is about 1/2 the size of a standard cap. I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size, I am not totally toast yet, but I am losing small amounts of coolant and it could be that all the air is not out of the system yet, as I changed to dextron which has seemed to help but it is 16 to 24 * F up here so it is hard to tell at this point, I thought I would toss a new cap on just for grins but the old one certainly looks good at the moment. Thanks for everybody's help once again. This is the older 912. Bob
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
Quote:
From: John W. Hart (helili(at)chahtatushka.net)
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:30 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912




After a little research, found that the 912 uses a pressure of 1.2 bar for the radiator cap. 1.2 bars is equivalent to 17.4 pound per square inches.

18 psi caps by Stant are available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10234-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000B8JUG6

17 psi caps are also available from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Stant-10251-Radiator-Cap-PSI/dp/B000C8226K

I’d try one of these rater than shelling out $80. May be that your local auto parts store can get one for you without the shipping charge.

John Hart
KFIV
Wilburton, OK


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Subject: Kitfox-List: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912



Hi All,



Happy New Year!



We have a dilemma, just got off the phone with Aircraft Spruce and they want $80 for one radiator cap!!



Anyone know of another source to purchase one not costing that much?



Thanks Bob





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Beckwourth, CA
KF/4/1200 flying
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

On 1/12/2012 7:52 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
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this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would occasionally leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement. It was from a Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe someone else has the info.

Lowell,
Are you thinking of the Mercedes gas cap gasket?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Guy,
Thanks for that. I guess it is a little of the senior moment thing. Gas cap - radiator cap, all the same to me. Now if my wife was home, she could help me find the project I'm working on.
Lowell


From: Guy Buchanan (gebuchanan(at)cox.net)
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:37 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912


On 1/12/2012 7:52 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
Quote:
this note reminds me that in the day the gasket would occasionally leak and someone came up with an automotive replacement. It was from a Mercedes, I believe. I can't find my reference. Maybe someone else has the info.

Lowell,
Are you thinking of the Mercedes gas cap gasket?


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gebuchanan(at)cox.net (gebuchanan(at)cox.net)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

Hey thanks Guy.
Toodie & Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA
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On 1/11/2012 8:50 PM, rtmarshall wrote:
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I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size,

Hey my Acura has a teeny tiny radiator cap. I'll check it tomorrow.

Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

OK. Time warp. Checked the Acura and it has a nice, teeny, very weird, radiator cap. Nothing like the 912. However I did find this interesting thread:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296729

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Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.

On 1/11/2012 11:01 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: [quote] On 1/11/2012 8:50 PM, rtmarshall wrote:
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I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size,

Hey my Acura has a teeny tiny radiator cap. I'll check it tomorrow.

Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Radiator Cap for Rotax 912 Reply with quote

On My way to Beemer! Thanks Guy
Toodie & Bob Marshall
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[quote] From: Guy Buchanan (gebuchanan(at)cox.net)
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OK. Time warp. Checked the Acura and it has a nice, teeny, very weird, radiator cap. Nothing like the 912. However I did find this interesting thread:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296729

Did you already know about this?

Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.

On 1/11/2012 11:01 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
Quote:
On 1/11/2012 8:50 PM, rtmarshall wrote:
Quote:
I know of a great radiator shop over in Reno and I will take this gold plated beauty made exclusively for Rotax and there probably is some smaller German car that may have a cap this size,

Hey my Acura has a teeny tiny radiator cap. I'll check it tomorrow.

Guy Buchanan
Ramona, CA
Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded
Now a glider pilot, too.


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