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Hey Folks:
The EAA canned a bunch of people today. Some reports suggest 35 were
let go. A press release is full of wall-street corporate gobblygook
about "capturing opportunities in its long term strategic plan" and
that sort of thing. I'm pretty certain that we will continue to see
the EAA look more and more like the NBAA and AOPA. More of the stuff
that I really could care less about, and fewer of the people and
airplanes that make my world go around.
Oh well, nothing new, really.
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: Re: changes in EAA? |
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You have to wonder. I did not renew my EAA membership this last year, been a member since 1980, but EAA was no long about "Experimental" aircraft, but about "Recreational" aircraft, which included everything from Cessna 172's to Super Connies. That and the constant over emphasis on coming to spend money at "Airventure." It was so much better when it was just Oshkosh.
Maybe somebody turned on the lights and they'll wake up and get back to our end of the flying spectrum, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Remember the land grab 15 or 20 years ago. I knew then something was rotten at EAA. That was followed by years of telling us to support the LSA proposal, we were supposed to be able to buy a new plane for the cost of a mid sized sedan. They never mentioned that sedan was a high end BMW. Like so many organizations with noble beginnings EAA is now all about self promotion and money. The only reason I remain a member is the local chapter which is a good group of people.
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They got fat under the tutelage of "little Tommy" as I disrespectfully like to call him... They are not immune to the economy either...To survive, they will reach out to whomever offers them some crumbs..
I think we all know that Experimental Aviation grew as an offshoot of the boomers and their parents from WWII.. It is now under the auspices of those who grew up in front of a tv playing games or watching Sesame Street..
Whole different mind set...Glass cockpits...100k planes...etc.. lots of neat gadgets...weather on your cell phone...good stuff....that most of us cannot afford..
It is going to be interesting to watch their outreach to the grass roots...even ultra lite owners... Where ever they think there is a buck... Wonder if they know how to stoop that low??
Herb
At 09:27 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote:
[quote]Hey Folks:
The EAA canned a bunch of people today. Some reports suggest 35 were
let go. A press release is full of wall-street corporate gobblygook
about "capturing opportunities in its long term strategic plan" and
that sort of thing. I'm pretty certain that we will continue to see
the EAA look more and more like the NBAA and AOPA. More of the stuff
that I really could care less about, and fewer of the people and
airplanes that make my world go around.
Oh well, nothing new, really.
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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Amen, Brother Pike:
To me, the real yardstick for measuring the shift in the center of gravity
of the EAA can be found in the
mix of airplanes which show up at Airventure and Sun n Fun (even though the
latter is no longer an "official"
EAA event)... The areas set aside for ultralights and "poor-boy" rag and
tube aviation have shrunk dramatically
in the last ten years... the vendors and participants renting space in the
UL spaces are choked down to less than half of
their original number, and the ones which remain tell stories about the fees
charged to them by the shows having
doubled and tripled in the last few years. I have personally heard two of
the few who remain commenting about the dying
UL environment and wondering whether it is even worth returning the next
year.
In contrast, the great carnival ways at the shows are crammed with "sport"
machines with glass panel displays and price tags
more commonly associated with a four bedroom house. At this end of the show
it is possible to stand on blue astroturf and be "pitched" by an
immaculately coiffed, gold chain bedecked, individual in $200 Ray-Bans and a
monogrammed jump suit festooned with what appear to be Congolese Air Force
Pilot wings and the name "Lance" on the pocket... If he sizes you up as
having shaved that morning and observes that your neck is draped with a
Canon or Nikon, vice some lesser brand, he may deign to suffer you to
briefly sit in the front seat of a quarter million dollar toy which appears,
on closer inspection, to actually be a depraved Super Cub in drag...
This downward slide into glossiness is easily tracked in the EAA and UL/LSA
trade magazines... The EAA "Experimenter" of fifteen or twenty years ago
had a totally different target audience and focus than it has today. I have
a stack of the old ones in a closet... They contain articles and detailed
discussions about actually putting tab A into slot B and doing innovative,
inexpensive things with non-exotic materials to safely get into the air with
a minimal commitment of bucks in something you actually built yourself. The
objective wasn't to go real fast or look real sexy...only to fly and have
fun on a budget which would not cause a man to lie awake all night counting
the popcorn lumps on the ceiling and wondering how he was going to pay off
the airplane loan. These old magazines contained no endless, look-alike
"pilot reports" on equally look-alike airplanes from Czechoslovakia,
Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Croatia, or wherever... the least expensive of
which cost at least double the annual wages of the average wanna-be
pilot/builder reading the magazine.
I believe the evidence clearly supports the contention that the EAA has
morphed from an organization dedicated to
supporting the needs and aspirations of the rank and file amateur aviation
enthusiast, into a slick, well lubricated money
extraction machine intent on sucking every possible shekel out of the hide
of anyone who shows an interest in airplanes.
It is big business... and it ain't about "us" any more.... They no longer
get my money or support.
Mebbe the time has come for another "EAA" to crank up... a real one...
again.
Ranted-out beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
Do Not Archive
-----------------------------original message--------------------------
You have to wonder. I did not renew my EAA membership this last year, been a
member since 1980, but EAA was no long about "Experimental" aircraft, but
about "Recreational" aircraft, which included everything from Cessna 172's
to Super Connies. That and the constant over emphasis on coming to spend
money at "Airventure." It was so much better when it was just Oshkosh.
Maybe somebody turned on the lights and they'll wake up and get back to our
end of the flying spectrum, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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Don't let this go to your head...but you would make Samuel Langhorne Clemens envious...
Herb (who is headed to the golf course with a bottle of Southern Comfort..) gotta stay warm!!
A man may have no bad habits and have worse. SLC .
At 11:10 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote:
[quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford " <beauford173(at)verizon.net>
Amen, Brother Pike:
To me, the real yardstick for measuring the shift in the center of gravity
of the EAA can be found in the
mix of airplanes which show up at Airventure and Sun n Fun (even though the
latter is no longer an "official"
EAA event)... The areas set aside for ultralights and "poor-boy" rag and
tube aviation have shrunk dramatically
in the last ten years... the vendors and participants renting space in the
UL spaces are choked down to less than half of
their original number, and the ones which remain tell stories about the fees
charged to them by the shows having
doubled and tripled in the last few years. I have personally heard two of
the few who remain commenting about the dying
UL environment and wondering whether it is even worth returning the next
year.
In contrast, the great carnival ways at the shows are crammed with "sport"
machines with glass panel displays and price tags
more commonly associated with a four bedroom house. At this end of the show
it is possible to stand on blue astroturf and be "pitched" by an
immaculately coiffed, gold chain bedecked, individual in $200 Ray-Bans and a
monogrammed jump suit festooned with what appear to be Congolese Air Force
Pilot wings and the name "Lance" on the pocket... If he sizes you up as
having shaved that morning and observes that your neck is draped with a
Canon or Nikon, vice some lesser brand, he may deign to suffer you to
briefly sit in the front seat of a quarter million dollar toy which appears,
on closer inspection, to actually be a depraved Super Cub in drag...
This downward slide into glossiness is easily tracked in the EAA and UL/LSA
trade magazines... The EAA "Experimenter" of fifteen or twenty years ago
had a totally different target audience and focus than it has today. I have
a stack of the old ones in a closet... They contain articles and detailed
discussions about actually putting tab A into slot B and doing innovative,
inexpensive things with non-exotic materials to safely get into the air with
a minimal commitment of bucks in something you actually built yourself. The
objective wasn't to go real fast or look real sexy...only to fly and have
fun on a budget which would not cause a man to lie awake all night counting
the popcorn lumps on the ceiling and wondering how he was going to pay off
the airplane loan. These old magazines contained no endless, look-alike
"pilot reports" on equally look-alike airplanes from Czechoslovakia,
Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Croatia, or wherever... the least expensive of
which cost at least double the annual wages of the average wanna-be
pilot/builder reading the magazine.
I believe the evidence clearly supports the contention that the EAA has
morphed from an organization dedicated to
supporting the needs and aspirations of the rank and file amateur aviation
enthusiast, into a slick, well lubricated money
extraction machine intent on sucking every possible shekel out of the hide
of anyone who shows an interest in airplanes.
It is big business... and it ain't about "us" any more.... They no longer
get my money or support.
Mebbe the time has come for another "EAA" to crank up... a real one...
again.
Ranted-out beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
Do Not Archive
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You have to wonder. I did not renew my EAA membership this last year, been a
member since 1980, but EAA was no long about "Experimental" aircraft, but
about "Recreational" aircraft, which included everything from Cessna 172's
to Super Connies. That and the constant over emphasis on coming to spend
money at "Airventure." It was so much better when it was just Oshkosh.
Maybe somebody turned on the lights and they'll wake up and get back to our
end of the flying spectrum, but I'm not holding my breath.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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Yup EAA went through cultural migration upward$. Hire more people get bigger, need bigger budgets for the MBA's who want to be paid more. Then they get into bed with the FAA and now they are Big time, having meetings about regulatory issues, before they knew it they were spending more time on external affairs than Kit planes Kolbs and "experimenters". Makes me wonder just how many of the fancy suites there ever get their hands dirty on pre-mix, and aluminum tubes.
Like everything else, dad worked with his hands made success, sent son to College, son came back with clean hands and numbers in his head, hired people to maximize numbers, surprise,,, numbers don't pay the bills people who work do.
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They got fat under the tutelage of "little Tommy" as I
disrespectfully like to call him... They are not immune to the
economy either...To survive, they will reach out to whomever offers
them some crumbs..
I think we all know that Experimental Aviation grew as an offshoot
of the boomers and their parents from WWII.. It is now under the
auspices of those who grew up in front of a tv playing games or
watching Sesame Street..
Whole different mind set...Glass cockpits...100k planes...etc..
lots of neat gadgets...weather on your cell
phone...good stuff....that most of us cannot afford..
It is going to be interesting to watch their outreach to the
grass roots...even ultra lite owners... Where ever they think
there is a buck... Wonder if they know how to stoop that low??
Herb
At 09:27 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote:
| Quote: | Hey Folks:
The EAA canned a bunch of people today. Some reports suggest 35 were
let go. A press release is full of wall-street corporate gobblygook
about "capturing opportunities in its long term strategic plan" and
that sort of thing. I'm pretty certain that we will continue to see
the EAA look more and more like the NBAA and AOPA. More of the stuff
that I really could care less about, and fewer of the people and
airplanes that make my world go around.
Oh well, nothing new, really.
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: changes in EAA? |
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I was looking over the Sun and Fun website. Maybe thinking about going.
I notice if you are an EAA member, the ticket price is discounted from $35 to $30.
Is S and F an EAA sponsered event?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: changes in EAA? |
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| Richard Pike wrote: | You have to wonder. I did not renew my EAA membership this last year, been a member since 1980, but EAA was no long about "Experimental" aircraft, but about "Recreational" aircraft, which included everything from Cessna 172's to Super Connies. That and the constant over emphasis on coming to spend money at "Airventure." It was so much better when it was just Oshkosh.
Maybe somebody turned on the lights and they'll wake up and get back to our end of the flying spectrum, but I'm not holding my breath. |
Agreed....I dropped out a long time ago...ever since Uncle Tom took over it turned into a BIG money thing...At first I was angry at the food vendors ,with their $5. pops and little sausage muffins for another $5.,until I found out how much the EAA was charging them to be there !!!! It seems unless you own a million dollar warbird,you need to just go away ! I remember going there with a $100.00 in my pocket and still having money to go home on...Now you can't even get in the dang place...if you could show a pilot license,you got into the fly wears part for free...not a chance now ! Thanks for posting....I thought I was the only one that felt this way !
chris ambrose
M3X Jabiru A -2200
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I understand the frustration and disappointment with the EAA. I feel the same. But what do we do about it? Voicing our opinions on forums like this is a good start, but it needs to go further. It needs to be brought to the attention of the EAA staff. However, as with any complaint, it should be accompanied with recommended solutions. So, let’s keep the complaints coming, but let’s start throwing in viable solutions with them.
I agree that for me, “Experimenter” was a better magazine than “Sport Pilot”. In fact I switched from “Sport Pilot” to “Sport Aviation” because of the change in format. I’m a low end guy who builds and flys Kolbs, Titans, and Pietenpols. An RV would be nice, but it’s out of my price range. I like to read about real economical projects (airplanes, hangars, grass strips, tools, how to stuff, etc). What are we as a group looking that we are not getting in a magazine? Perhaps we should start submitting articles of our own to the magazine. Editors are often struggling to fill the pages, so how about we start to fill it with what WE want.
I still enjoy Airventure, but you are correct that it has shifted away from the grass roots feeling to a big dollar event. Participation down on the farm has been declining. I suppose that the costs for vendors just make the trip not worthwhile. If I were new to the experimental aviation world I would probably not know about a Volksplane, Teenie Two, Fly Baby, or any of the older scratch built designs. I might not venture down to the ultralight area since there are so few airplanes down there to look at, thereby missing Kolb’s and Titan’s exhibits all together.
What can we do? How about taking back our event? Everyone knows about RVs because the RV owners fill the homebuilt area with hundreds of them, and they’re great airplanes. But few know about the affordable alternatives that we all fly. It’s up to us to show them, and it’s up to us to show the EAA staff that we still exist. What if we could fill the ultralight area and homebuilt area with hundreds of OUR airplanes. Wouldn’t that be cool. I trailered my MKII to Airventure 2 years ago, and weather permitting I plan to fly my Titan Tornado there this year. Why not join me? It will be fun!
So let’s keep the gripes coming, but don’t forget the solutions. If your solution is not viable don’t worry. Someone will let you know. But at least it gets the ideas out there.
Malcolm Morrison
Port Matilda, PA
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Richard Pike wrote:
| Quote: | You have to wonder. I did not renew my EAA membership this last year, been a member since 1980, but EAA was no long about "Experimental" aircraft, but about "Recreational" aircraft, which included everything from Cessna 172's to Super Connies. That and the constant over emphasis on coming to spend money at "Airventure." It was so much better when it was just Oshkosh.
Maybe somebody turned on the lights and they'll wake up and get back to our end of the flying spectrum, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Agreed....I dropped out a long time ago..ever since Uncle Tom took over it turned into a BIG money thing...At first I was angry at the food vendors ,with their $5. pops and little sausage muffins for another $5.,until I found out how much the EAA was charging them to be there !!!! It seems unless you own a million dollar warbird,you need to just go away ! I remember going there with a $100.00 in my pocket and still having money to go home on...Now you can't even get in the dang place...if you could show a pilot license,you got into the fly wears part for free...not a chance now ! Thanks for posting....I thought I was the only one that felt this way !
chris ambrose
M3X Jabiru A -2200
N327CS
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EAA got the last dollar they'll get from me years ago.
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Richard Pike
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Maybe if more people started giving the EAA some competition? Our local sport flying club, the Mountain Empire Sport Flyers
http://www.bcchapel.org/MESF/MESF.html
is a member of the U S Ultralight Association
http://www.usua.org/
Obviously compared to the EAA, USUA is a hole in the wall sort of group, but that works for us.
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Been a lot of discussion on this over on http://eaaforums.org. Lots of dissatisfied people over there, and the EAA brass is hearing it, if not paying attention to it.
USUA is pretty dead too... no magazine, minimal staff... the only reason I'm a member is for the insurance.
-Dana
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Maybe if more people started giving the EAA some competition? Our local sport flying club, the Mountain Empire Sport Flyers
http://www.bcchapel.org/MESF/MESF.html
is a member of the U S Ultralight Association
http://www.usua.org/
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:17 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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Once you accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is
something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy Albert Einstein
That's great.Very funny. I had not heard it before. Doesn't`t sound like
Einstein though. Any confirmation.
Pat
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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Hi,
As you are probably aware we do not have anything like the Experimental Category in the UK.
Since the Thirties there has been the Popular Flying Association which in the early days promoted information and plans for light aircraft. Planes discussed were small, light, generally single seaters, probably the best known being the Mignet Flying Flea. This continued for many years. Planes became a bit bigger and more sophisticated and included factory built planes. Moths etc. Popular Flying was the magazine for the light aircraft devotee.
Hang gliders came along which evolved into microlights. After a dodgy start with no regulation and a few deaths an Association of microlight pilots was formed with their own magazine. Luckily Anne Welch, who had been involved in the British Gliding Association since very early gliding days realised the parallels between the development of early microlights and early gliders. She became involved and with others piloted the emerging Microlight Assoc. into a position where they ran their own autonomous Association, supplied instructors, agreed their own specifications of what a microlight was, their own inspectors, their own licences for pilots and aircraft etc. all under the auspices of the Board of Trade and CAA. The basis of `keep your nose clean and we won`t interfere` was and is well established.government attitude.
Naturally there has been some conflict between the Popular Flying Assoc.,( now the Light Aircraft Assoc).,.and the Microlight fraternity over jurisdiction and there have been efforts to merge the two organisations. These have failed, unfortunately in my view, as I have to be a member of both which is unnecessarily expensive. The Light Aircraft Assoc has now approved their first four seater plane so is moving farther from the microlight end which is my interest .
Looking at your problems with the EAA from the outside it would seem that you either have to attend all EAA meetings, propose motions, get them seconded and passed by working the `proper` organisation route and change things from the inside or form your own organisation.
That of course means a lot of work for someone. A respected organisation which can negotiate from strength on your behalf with the FAA, insurance companies etc has to be legal with a proper framework of representation and so on to be taken seriously.
Unfortunately the Experimental attitude as with our Microlight attitude is not attractive to people who only want to build and fly. Not mess about with `office work`
People who will do it can be found however, we have proved it in the UK but it is not easy.
Forgive a limey for intruding on your turf but roughly this is the way it has happened here, for what its worth
Pat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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That quotation from Albert Einstein >>
I have looked up the page you mentioned.
great Stuff. With so many quotes am surprised that he got any work done.
Its all relative I suppose.
Pat
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: changes in EAA? |
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That quotation from Albert Einstein >>
I have looked up the page you mentioned.
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Kolbers:
We are getting way off base here.
Let's get back to the primary purpose of the Kolb List, building and flying
Kolbs.
Thanks,
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:38 am Post subject: Re: changes in EAA? |
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Hi folks...sorry it took me so long to respond. Many of you have probably read the threads on the EAA Forums, but since many of you probably don't visit that forum, I wanted to say hi here.
If you haven't heard of me or met me, let me do a quick intro...Chad Jensen, Manager of Communities and Homebuilders Community Manager at EAA. I'm a homebuilder. Built/flew/sold my RV-7, now building a Wittman Tailwind, and have plans for a Legal Eagle. I have a huge interest in light aircraft and ultralights, so I want you guys to know that you can call or email any time, and I will be more than happy to talk about and listen to your concerns.
Many of you probably know Timm Bogenhagen here at EAA. He is our resident ultralight guy and is on the Ultralight Council. He and I talk all the time about the lighter side.
We finally have representation at the senior leadership level too! Rod selected me to sit at the table to represent the divisions and councils. Something long overdue.
Please shoot me an email, give me a call, or stop and say hi if we run in to one another at Oshkosh this summer!
cjensen(at)eaa.org or 920-426-6806
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