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 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: Acceleration and wild rides |
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I was a Navy TACAN tech on San Clemente Island. The carriers used to do
quals steaming between SCI and Catalina. The TACAN on the carrier
(forget the name) went down while their techs were gone, and I got the
repair call. A Lieutenant picked me up in an F-4 along with my tools
and a short (really short) trip to a trap on the carrier. I really
thought we crashed and the airplane was totalled!
Repaired the antenna (what a view of the deck ops!!!), had lunch, and a
shot in a different F-4, different Lieutenant ... maybe the first one
was totalled??? 
I got to roll and loop the F-4 on a much longer trip back to the
island. I need to tell you that at that point in my aviation hobby all
I knew about were radio control airplanes. But what a ride it was.
Linn
On 2/17/2012 9:47 AM, lmassaro wrote:
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Whatever the acceleration is, its a kick in the ass.
Unfortunately, never had the opportunity to cat or trap in a fighter, but have done it four times in a C-2 while a tech rep on USS Stennis and USS Carl Vinson. I assume it is a much more benign catapult than an F/A-18, but let me tell you, it is an e-ticket ride. Sitting backwards in the cargo space during the cat adds an interesting twist. Trapping is pretty boring IMHO.
Funny side story. On one cat, the one of the cargo crew immediately unclipped their harness. Well, the C-2 pilot decided to fly back to San Diego (about 80 nm) at about 200 MSL. He pushed over and I watched the crewmember go airborne then come crashing down. Funny. Good thing he was wearing headgear.
Lawrence Massaro
9186M 1992 AG-5B KRNM
626FT 1991 AG-5B KAUN
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:07 am Post subject: Acceleration and wild rides |
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Ok, pissing contest getting started.
1). 3 air-to-air combat training flights to test P&W engines with new software.
2). Terracing following shakedown flight in Lake Isabella MOA. 400 knots and 100 foot AGL.
3). GPS qualification with new engine software. 10 bombing runs using GPS tracking bombs.
4). During shakedown flight, was given the stick and taught how to do 4 and 8 point rolls.
5). Air-to-air refueling with the Flight Test Center Commander, General Engel. Testing a modification to correct engine response.
As a propulsion engineer, we got to ride in the backseat of our test aircraft. Flights occurred over a period of just over year.
Gary
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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I was a Navy TACAN tech on San Clemente Island. The carriers used to do quals steaming between SCI and Catalina. The TACAN on the carrier (forget the name) went down while their techs were gone, and I got the repair call. A Lieutenant picked me up in an F-4 along with my tools and a short (really short) trip to a trap on the carrier. I really thought we crashed and the airplane was totalled!
Repaired the antenna (what a view of the deck ops!!!), had lunch, and a shot in a different F-4, different Lieutenant ... maybe the first one was totalled???
I got to roll and loop the F-4 on a much longer trip back to the island. I need to tell you that at that point in my aviation hobby all I knew about were radio control airplanes. But what a ride it was.
Linn
On 2/17/2012 9:47 AM, lmassaro wrote:
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> Unfortunately, never had the opportunity to cat or trap in a fighter, but have done it four times in a C-2 while a tech rep on USS Stennis and USS Carl Vinson. I assume it is a much more benign catapult than an F/A-18, but let me tell you, it is an e-ticket ride. Sitting backwards in the cargo space during the cat adds an interesting twist. Trapping is pretty boring IMHO.
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> Funny side story. On one cat, the one of the cargo crew immediately unclipped their harness. Well, the C-2 pilot decided to fly back to San Diego (about 80 nm) at about 200 MSL. He pushed over and I watched the crewmember go airborne then come crashing down. Funny. Good thing he was wearing headgear.
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> Lawrence Massaro
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:34 am Post subject: Acceleration and wild rides |
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And Adam said: I can piss up a rope and around a tree.And Eve said: Big deal, I can have multiple orgasms.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)>
Ok, pissing contest getting started.
1). 3 air-to-air combat training flights to test P&W engines with new software.
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Big deal: I did that in a Citrabia, WITHOUT any software. Unless you want to count a parachute.
| Quote: | 2). Terracing following shakedown flight in Lake Isabella MOA. 400 knots and 100 foot AGL.
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Big deal: I did that bit SLOWER and LOWER - 100 Kts and TOUCHING GROUND at 100 Kts in my AA5 on a 6000 Ft runway... FULL SPEED. Not a landing. Done intentionally.
| Quote: | 3). GPS qualification with new engine software. 10 bombing runs using GPS tracking bombs.
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Big deal: I Don't need no stink'n GPS... Did three bomb runs at AYA conventions WITHOUT any GPS tracking bombs. Didn't hit anything else but the GROUND.
| Quote: | 4). During shakedown flight, was given the stick and taught how to do 4 and 8 point rolls.
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Big deal: Ever do a ONE Point Roll? And a 8 point roll is only a 4 point roll multiplied by 2.
| Quote: | 5). Air-to-air refueling with the Flight Test Center Commander, General Engel. Testing a modification to correct engine response.
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OK, OK, you beat me here: The best I ever did was a half of a Split S in an O-2 with Tracers coming up at me as I was putting Smoke on a target for two F4's.
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As a propulsion engineer, we got to ride in the backseat of our test aircraft. Flights occurred over a period of just over year.
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As a SCUBA Instructor I got to ride Right Seat (O-2) with Colonel Watt in Korea.
I was on Colonel Watt's Dive Team, he was my SCUBA student and this was the First SPORT Dive Team EVER to dive Korea.
OK, My BLADDER is empty.
Barry
Sent from my Home Build PC - I don't need NO stink'n iPad
WMHwwwwwwaaaa
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>
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> I was a Navy TACAN tech on San Clemente Island. The carriers used to do quals steaming between SCI and Catalina. The TACAN on the carrier (forget the name) went down while their techs were gone, and I got the repair call. A Lieutenant picked me up in an F-4 along with my tools and a short (really short) trip to a trap on the carrier. I really thought we crashed and the airplane was totalled!
>
> Repaired the antenna (what a view of the deck ops!!!), had lunch, and a shot in a different F-4, different Lieutenant ... maybe the first one was totalled???
>
> I got to roll and loop the F-4 on a much longer trip back to the island. I need to tell you that at that point in my aviation hobby all I knew about were radio control airplanes. But what a ride it was.
> Linn
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> On 2/17/2012 9:47 AM, lmassaro wrote:
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>> Whatever the acceleration is, its a kick in the ass.
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>> Unfortunately, never had the opportunity to cat or trap in a fighter, but have done it four times in a C-2 while a tech rep on USS Stennis and USS Carl Vinson. I assume it is a much more benign catapult than an F/A-18, but let me tell you, it is an e-ticket ride. Sitting backwards in the cargo space during the cat adds an interesting twist. Trapping is pretty boring IMHO.
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>> Funny side story. On one cat, the one of the cargo crew immediately unclipped their harness. Well, the C-2 pilot decided to fly back to San Diego (about 80 nm) at about 200 MSL. He pushed over and I watched the crewmember go airborne then come crashing down. Funny. Good thing he was wearing headgear.
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>> Lawrence Massaro
>> 9186M 1992 AG-5B KRNM
>> 626FT 1991 AG-5B KAUN
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: Acceleration and wild rides |
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"As a SCUBA Instructor I got to ride Right Seat (O-2) with Colonel Watt in Korea.
I was on Colonel Watt's Dive Team, he was my SCUBA student and this was the First SPORT Dive Team EVER to dive Korea."
Now, if you had said you flew with Lt Col Iceal E. "Gene" Hambleton in Vietnam, I would would have asked for an autograph.
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And Adam said: I can piss up a rope and around a tree.And Eve said: Big deal, I can have multiple orgasms.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)>
Ok, pissing contest getting started.
1). 3 air-to-air combat training flights to test P&W engines with new software.
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Big deal: I did that in a Citrabia, WITHOUT any software. Unless you want to count a parachute.
| Quote: | 2). Terracing following shakedown flight in Lake Isabella MOA. 400 knots and 100 foot AGL.
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Big deal: I did that bit SLOWER and LOWER - 100 Kts and TOUCHING GROUND at 100 Kts in my AA5 on a 6000 Ft runway... FULL SPEED. Not a landing. Done intentionally.
| Quote: | 3). GPS qualification with new engine software. 10 bombing runs using GPS tracking bombs.
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Big deal: I Don't need no stink'n GPS... Did three bomb runs at AYA conventions WITHOUT any GPS tracking bombs. Didn't hit anything else but the GROUND.
| Quote: | 4). During shakedown flight, was given the stick and taught how to do 4 and 8 point rolls.
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Big deal: Ever do a ONE Point Roll? And a 8 point roll is only a 4 point roll multiplied by 2.
| Quote: | 5). Air-to-air refueling with the Flight Test Center Commander, General Engel. Testing a modification to correct engine response.
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OK, OK, you beat me here: The best I ever did was a half of a Split S in an O-2 with Tracers coming up at me as I was putting Smoke on a target for two F4's.
| Quote: |
As a propulsion engineer, we got to ride in the backseat of our test aircraft. Flights occurred over a period of just over year.
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As a SCUBA Instructor I got to ride Right Seat (O-2) with Colonel Watt in Korea.
I was on Colonel Watt's Dive Team, he was my SCUBA student and this was the First SPORT Dive Team EVER to dive Korea.
OK, My BLADDER is empty.
Barry
Sent from my Home Build PC - I don't need NO stink'n iPad
WMHwwwwwwaaaa
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Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>
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> I was a Navy TACAN tech on San Clemente Island. The carriers used to do quals steaming between SCI and Catalina. The TACAN on the carrier (forget the name) went down while their techs were gone, and I got the repair call. A Lieutenant picked me up in an F-4 along with my tools and a short (really short) trip to a trap on the carrier. I really thought we crashed and the airplane was totalled!
>
> Repaired the antenna (what a view of the deck ops!!!), had lunch, and a shot in a different F-4, different Lieutenant ... maybe the first one was totalled???
>
> I got to roll and loop the F-4 on a much longer trip back to the island. I need to tell you that at that point in my aviation hobby all I knew about were radio control airplanes. But what a ride it was.
> Linn
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> On 2/17/2012 9:47 AM, lmassaro wrote:
>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "lmassaro"<lmassaro(at)tac-eng.com (lmassaro(at)tac-eng.com)>
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>> Whatever the acceleration is, its a kick in the ass.
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>> Unfortunately, never had the opportunity to cat or trap in a fighter, but have done it four times in a C-2 while a tech rep on USS Stennis and USS Carl Vinson. I assume it is a much more benign catapult than an F/A-18, but let me tell you, it is an e-ticket ride. Sitting backwards in the cargo space during the cat adds an interesting twist. Trapping is pretty boring IMHO.
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>> Funny side story. On one cat, the one of the cargo crew immediately unclipped their harness. Well, the C-2 pilot decided to fly back to San Diego (about 80 nm) at about 200 MSL. He pushed over and I watched the crewmember go airborne then come crashing down. Funny. Good thing he was wearing headgear.
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>> Lawrence Massaro
>> 9186M 1992 AG-5B KRNM
>> 626FT 1991 AG-5B KAUN
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366470#366470
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