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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

OK, what is the trick to getting the bushings installed? I tried fabricating several different tools. I got one of the bushings to work. The other 3 didn't.
Is there a better solution for these bushings?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

I use large rivet dimple dies (-5) to expand the non-flanged end of the.bushings. Worked good for a decade or more.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't remember it being a difficult repair
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[quote]OK, what is the trick to getting the bushings installed? I tried fabricating several different tools. I got one of the bushings to work. The other 3 didn't.
Is there a better solution for these bushings?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

does Aircraft Spruce have one?
What do you use to compress them?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

Garner doesn't have one any more.
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It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't  remember it being a difficult repair
Ned

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[quote]OK, what is the trick to getting the bushings installed? I tried fabricating several different tools. I got one of the bushings to work. The other 3 didn't.
Is there a better solution for these bushings?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

Is this what you are looking for.
http://www.esterline.com/Portals/8/NMC/PDF/FlipGrommet_07.pdf

Looks like they are in your neck of the woods.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

Thanks Ian. I'll order one tomorrow.
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Looks like they are in your part part of the woods.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

The company that I bought them from back in 2001 was Hartwell Commercial Products. The tools came from Placentia Ca, but the main office is in Chicago. The last phone number I have is 714-993-2752. The tool for the nas1368n4c is a HT-4 flipping tool. HT-6 for the nas1368n6c.  I have bought 20 of them and loaned them out for those that were in need.  Needless to say, the loaners did not come back. As I get older, I cant remember who I loaned them to, but I'm sure those that I loaned them to, are older than I am. So the real question is for my older customers is, did you remember to tighten up the prop bolts before you put that shiney pointed thingy on the front.

Garner
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Garner doesn't have one any more.
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It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't  remember it being a difficult repair
Ned

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On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
[quote]OK, what is the trick to getting the bushings installed?  I tried fabricating several different tools.  I got one of the bushings to work.  The other 3 didn't.
Is there a better solution for these bushings?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

Hartwell is still around.   Don't know if they still have anything to do with this product, they mostly manufacture latches of various kinds... They are a supplier for a project I've been working for several years now... I've been dealing with them (on the engineering side) in regards to this fantastic product:  http://www.hartwellcorp.com/pdfs/SGcsB787bif.pdf

Contact info is here:  http://www.hartwellcorp.com/html/contact.html

You may have better luck with the phone number listed as "HASCO", that's their spares/aftermarket services division.

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[quote] The company that I bought them from back in 2001 was Hartwell Commercial Products. The tools came from Placentia Ca, but the main office is in Chicago. The last phone number I have is [url=tel:714-993-2752]714-993-2752[/url]. The tool for the nas1368n4c is a HT-4 flipping tool. HT-6 for the nas1368n6c.  I have bought 20 of them and loaned them out for those that were in need.  Needless to say, the loaners did not come back. As I get older, I cant remember who I loaned them to, but I'm sure those that I loaned them to, are older than I am. So the real question is for my older customers is, did you remember to tighten up the prop bolts before you put that shiney pointed thingy on the front.

Garner
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Garner doesn't have one any more.
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It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't  remember it being a difficult repair


Ned

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

On second look, it appears that they spun that part of the product line off as Hartwell-Dzus... which then became Southco-Dzus, which then renamed itself Southco.  It appears that they still make a grommet similar to the NAS1368, and they mention an installation tool on their catalog page.

http://www.southco.com/product/class.aspx?cid=7538

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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Dan Baisley <slacktide(at)gmail.com (slacktide(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Hartwell is still around.   Don't know if they still have anything to do with this product, they mostly manufacture latches of various kinds... They are a supplier for a project I've been working for several years now... I've been dealing with them (on the engineering side) in regards to this fantastic product:  http://www.hartwellcorp.com/pdfs/SGcsB787bif.pdf

Contact info is here:  http://www.hartwellcorp.com/html/contact.html

You may have better luck with the phone number listed as "HASCO", that's their spares/aftermarket services division.

DWB
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Garner Rice <garnerrice(at)hotmail.com (garnerrice(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
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The company that I bought them from back in 2001 was Hartwell Commercial Products. The tools came from Placentia Ca, but the main office is in Chicago. The last phone number I have is [url=tel:714-993-2752]714-993-2752[/url]. The tool for the nas1368n4c is a HT-4 flipping tool. HT-6 for the nas1368n6c.  I have bought 20 of them and loaned them out for those that were in need.  Needless to say, the loaners did not come back. As I get older, I cant remember who I loaned them to, but I'm sure those that I loaned them to, are older than I am. So the real question is for my older customers is, did you remember to tighten up the prop bolts before you put that shiney pointed thingy on the front.

Garner
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Garner doesn't have one any more.
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It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't  remember it being a difficult repair


Ned

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Cabin heat nylon bushings Reply with quote

That number is no longer in service.
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The company that I bought them from back in 2001 was Hartwell Commercial Products. The tools came from Placentia Ca, but the main office is in Chicago. The last phone number I have is 714-993-2752. The tool for the nas1368n4c is a HT-4 flipping tool. HT-6 for the nas1368n6c. I have bought 20 of them and loaned them out for those that were in need. Needless to say, the loaners did not come back. As I get older, I cant remember who I loaned them to, but I'm sure those that I loaned them to, are older than I am. So the real question is for my older customers is, did you remember to tighten up the prop bolts before you put that shiney pointed thingy on the front.

Garner
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Garner doesn't have one any more.
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It's been about 6 years ago but as I recall Garner has a tool that he loans out when you get the bushings and seal material from him. The tool must have worked pretty good because I don't remember it being a difficult repair
Ned

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