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EdKranz
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Location: Hastings, MN
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast... and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.
After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second skin and the edge came out perfectly.
I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays... and it doesn't look too bad.
I'm leaning towards attempting to use the skin, but what do you all think?
I'm attaching a pic of the bad skin, the good skin, and the two jointed together.
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rleffler
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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As long as the trailing edge is straight, I would build on.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin?
After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast... and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.
After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second skin and the edge came out perfectly.
I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays... and it doesn't look too bad.
I'm leaning towards attempting to use the skin, but what do you all think?
I'm attaching a pic of the bad skin, the good skin, and the two jointed together.
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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I agree. If I remember right, you proseal it anyway.
Did you create a riveting plate to do the trailing edge? If so, that will help keep it straight……
Rene' Felker
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Did I wreck my rudder skin?
As long as the trailing edge is straight, I would build on.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin?
After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast... and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.
After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second skin and the edge came out perfectly.
I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays... and it doesn't look too bad.
I'm leaning towards attempting to use the skin, but what do you all think?
I'm attaching a pic of the bad skin, the good skin, and the two jointed together.
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EdKranz
Joined: 29 Dec 2010
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Location: Hastings, MN
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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I'm going to use the angle-iron method, cleco every hole, and use the
clothespin trick that I've seen a few builders use to stop pillowing
between rivets while the pro-seal sets (especially important to me now that
the one edge is a little stretched...)
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Rene Felker <rene(at)felker.com> wrote:
[quote] I agree. If I remember right, you proseal it anyway.****
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Did you create a riveting plate to do the trailing edge? If so, that will
help keep it straight……****
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Rene' Felker****
N423CF****
801-721-6080****
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Leffler
*Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 3:15 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Did I wreck my rudder skin?****
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As long as the trailing edge is straight, I would build on.****
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bob****
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Kranz
*Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 4:39 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Did I wreck my rudder skin?****
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After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a
slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the
Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I
managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast..
and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.****
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After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second
skin and the edge came out perfectly. ****
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I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends
out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as
possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I
figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays..
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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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It'll probably turn out ok, but it's hard to say for sure.
You are definitely putting way too much of a bend in the skin edge. You just want to break the edge a very slight amount. Almost where you can't see the bend line. You just need an ever so slight bend and you'll be fine.
-Mike Kraus
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On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast... and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.
After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second skin and the edge came out perfectly.
I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays... and it doesn't look too bad.
I'm leaning towards attempting to use the skin, but what do you all think?
I'm attaching a pic of the bad skin, the good skin, and the two jointed together.
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Lew Gallagher
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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Hey Ed,
What the others are saying. The pictures look like it pulls together very well. Keep in mind that more than likely you are going to paint your plane. We thought we had done a pretty good job on the rudder until we got much further along in the build and cringed when we looked back at our first stage of building. So before priming/painting, I simply went back over the rudder and filled any dings with epoxy/micro beads, sanded it flush, and after priming/paint, it looks perfect. For those who are proud of their rivet work, or want to be judged for best of show – don’t fill your rivets. I kind of like the “plastic plane” slick look, so I filled all the rivets in/around all leading edges, and most in the tail section. No problems 2.5 yrs. out.
Later, – Lew
From: Ed Kranz (ed.kranz(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:39 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Did I wreck my rudder skin?
After final drilling my rudder skin, I got to the step about putting a slight bend in the rudder skin at the trailing edge. I bought the Cleaveland Tools edge forming tool for just these situations. Well, I managed to mangle the edge by using too much pressure and going too fast... and it seems to have stretched the skin a bit.
After the debacle with the first skin, I went light an slow on the second skin and the edge came out perfectly.
I went over the first skin the opposite way to take some of the bad bends out, then made a bend in the correct direction to smooth it as much as possible, but the edge is pretty wavy. I was sure the skin was junk, but I figured I'd cleco it up with the good skin and wedge to see how it lays... and it doesn't look too bad.
I'm leaning towards attempting to use the skin, but what do you all think?
I'm attaching a pic of the bad skin, the good skin, and the two jointed together.
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johngoodman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Did I wreck my rudder skin? |
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Ed,
You'll be fine. Build on!
John
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