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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder". I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with such an animal....Though you may be able to rig something up using one of the newer lightweight low power devices like a Trig.
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On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:51 PM, "John Cammarano" <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net (jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:

[quote] Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder". I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

If you don't like or can't use the info you get here, try asking that question on a ballooning forum. I have seen things like that cobbled together for balloons (try to find a balloon with an electrical system! Smile. I think you're in a "roll your own" situation, here. As I recall, they were just normal panel mount transponders and encoders with smallish 12V SLA batteries in makeshift boxes - no real magic.

I can't remember whether the ones I've seen were in hot air or gas balloons, so you might want to target both kinds in your search.
Good luck!


Doug Ilg
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Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)



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From: John Cammarano <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net>
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Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder". I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:20 am    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

3/21/2012

Hello John, See this web site:

http://www.kinetic.co.uk/last.php

Note that a true portable transponder for use in the U. S may be a real
tough problem to solve because of the TSO requirements. Also note the
requirements of 14 CFR 91.413.

The sailplane people work in this arena -- just google transponder for
sailplanes. Here is one source:

http://www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2010B.pdf
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."

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From: "John Cammarano" <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Transponder

Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder".
I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often
like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small
battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am
trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's
own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable
GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

Thanks Doug.

Johnny


From: Doug Ilg (doug.ilg(at)verizon.net)
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:09 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Transponder


If you don't like or can't use the info you get here, try asking that question on a ballooning forum. I have seen things like that cobbled together for balloons (try to find a balloon with an electrical system! Smile. I think you're in a "roll your own" situation, here. As I recall, they were just normal panel mount transponders and encoders with smallish 12V SLA batteries in makeshift boxes - no real magic.



I can't remember whether the ones I've seen were in hot air or gas balloons, so you might want to target both kinds in your search.


Good luck!


Doug Ilg
Grumman Tiger N74818, College Park Airport (KCGS), Maryland
Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)



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To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
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Subject: Transponder
Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder". I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

Thanks!! - great info.

Johnny

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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:20 AM
To: <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com>; <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Transponder

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3/21/2012

Hello John, See this web site:

http://www.kinetic.co.uk/last.php

Note that a true portable transponder for use in the U. S may be a real
tough problem to solve because of the TSO requirements. Also note the
requirements of 14 CFR 91.413.

The sailplane people work in this arena -- just google transponder for
sailplanes. Here is one source:

http://www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2010B.pdf
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
to gather and understand knowledge."

===============================================================

From: "John Cammarano" <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Transponder

Can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a "Portable transponder".
I have a small antique airplane with no electrical system & would often
like to have a transponder but I don't really want to add a small
battery. I don't mind adding the small transponder type antenna. I am
trying to find out if there is a transponder out there powered by it's
own rechargeable batteries - like a handheld comm radio or a portable
GPS. Any info here would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Johnny




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:37 am    Post subject: Transponder Reply with quote

Hi John,

Look at Microair. I know they have packages specifically for sailplane operations. Probably Becker, Garrecht and Trig as well.
Becker and Microair being the lightest.

Unfortunately, none of these are inexpensive. But then, I don't know of any inexpensive transponder.

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
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Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
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On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:00 AM, John Cammarano wrote:



Thanks!! - great info.

Johnny

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From: <bakerocb(at)cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:20 AM
To: <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com>; <jcappraiser(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Transponder

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3/21/2012

Hello John, See this web site:

http://www.kinetic.co.uk/last.php

Note that a true portable transponder for use in the U. S may be a real tough problem to solve because of the TSO requirements. Also note the requirements of 14 CFR 91.413.

The sailplane people work in this arena -- just google transponder for sailplanes. Here is one source:

http://www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2010B.pdf


'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge."


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