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poasttown(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: Balance Tires

I have always balanced my tires and rims when I install new tires.  However, when I mentioned this to a few pilots flying non-experimental aircraft (Cessena 150) they said they didn't balance their tires.

 

What is the standard out there? 

 

Mike Chaney

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Roger Lee

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Balance Tires

Hi Mike,



I balance all my customers tires and every single tire needs it.

You are wise to balance them. I never see tires that are balanced right after they are mounted without weights. Out of balance tires can cause a lot of plane shake. It's too easy to do to not do it.

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Float Flyr

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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: Balance Tires

If you have a tire that weighs several hundred pounds and runs down the runway at better than a hundred miles an hour then I would say it better be balanced.  A $1.50 probably will never make it to 80 mph on the ground but I bet they still have the marker for the tire valve on them

 

Noel

 

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Chaney

Sent: March 22, 2012 9:58 PM

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Subject: Balance Tires 

 

I have always balanced my tires and rims when I install new tires.  However, when I mentioned this to a few pilots flying non-experimental aircraft (Cessena 150) they said they didn't balance their tires.



 



What is the standard out there? 



 



Mike Chaney



1996 Kitfox IV



Jabiru 2200



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rawheels

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Balance Tires

Certified tires will be marked with a red dot/line at the lightest point.  You simply match that up with the valve stem on the tube to get close.  After that, aircraft tires are generally considered to be self-balancing;  The heaviest part of the tire falls to the bottom of the wheel in flight, and gets rubbed off when the wheel touches the pavement.  



Now for those of us using off the shelf ATV tires and/or flying 90% off of sod/dirt, it is a good idea to balance them.  Those tires won't be held to the same tolerances and grass won't "balance" the tires for you.

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: Balance Tires

I'm probably missing something here, but with the exception of a little 

vibration after immediate lift off, which can be handled with a brief touch 

of the brakes, what risks am I incurring by not balancing my tires?

Lowell



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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:28 AM

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 Certified tires will be marked with a red dot/line at the lightest point. 

 You simply match that up with the valve stem on the tube to get close. 

 After that, aircraft tires are generally considered to be self-balancing; 

 The heaviest part of the tire falls to the bottom of the wheel in flight, 

 and gets rubbed off when the wheel touches the pavement.



 Now for those of us using off the shelf ATV tires and/or flying 90% off of 

 sod/dirt, it is a good idea to balance them.  Those tires won't be held to 

 the same tolerances and grass won't "balance" the tires for you.



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 Ryan Wheeler

 Kitfox IV-1200

 Indianapolis, IN





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rawheels

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Balance Tires

 	  lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net wrote: 	
		  I'm probably missing something here, but with the exception of a little 

vibration after immediate lift off, which can be handled with a brief touch 

of the brakes, what risks am I incurring by not balancing my tires? 	




That is a good question.  At our speeds there probably isn't much, and the plane is designed to handle bush landings, right?

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Float Flyr

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: Balance Tires

Lowell: Ever had a car that the weights fell off the tires?  Well I have and

vibration occurs somewhere after forty or fifty miles an hour... long after

a Kitfox is up in the air.  Some Cessnas and the like land at much higher

speeds and wheel balance will be of more importance to them as their tires

are heavier, turn faster and they don't land hard enough to self balance.



Noel



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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: Balance Tires

Then again, there them that tow their Foxes, on the mains, down the road at highway speeds. :-0

  

 Marco Menezes N99KX

 Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch

 Hersey, MI

 



    

From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com 

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:47 PM

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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)>



Lowell: Ever had a car that the weights fell off the tires?  Well I have and

vibration occurs  somewhere after forty or fifty miles an hour... long after

a Kitfox is up in the air.  Some Cessnas and the like land at much higher

speeds and wheel balance will be of more importance to them as their tires

are heavier, turn faster and they don't land hard enough to self balance.



Noel



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Float Flyr

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: Balance Tires

I didn’t think anybody did that anymore.  Something to do with the tires being approved for use on a highway.  Then again if the cop doesn’t ask... Don’t tell!

 

Noel

 

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes

Sent: March 23, 2012 5:37 PM

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Balance Tires

 

Then again, there them that tow their Foxes, on the mains, down the road at highway speeds. :-0



 



Marco Menezes N99KX



Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch



Hersey, MI



 



From: Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:47 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Balance Tires

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)>



Lowell: Ever had a car that the weights fell off the tires?  Well I have and

vibration occurs somewhere after forty or fifty miles an hour... long after

a Kitfox is up in the air.  Some Cessnas and the like land at much higher

speeds and wheel balance will be of more importance to them as their tires

are heavier, turn faster and they don't land hard enough to self balance.



Noel



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