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donmorrisey(at)hotmail.co
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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I'm hoping to get some insight and opinions on the avionics list regarding =
using Anywhere map w/Weather versus the Garmin 396.
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The cost difference is substantial and I'd like to know from anyone who has=
experience with both systems whether or not it's ultimately worth it.
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I am strictly a VFR pilot. I like the Anywhere map system because it is a =
lower initial cost and I would not have to add weather right away, particul=
arly while I'm flying off my 40 hours. =20
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With my engine on the way and the purchase of all the firewall forward mate=
rial and panel instruments any deferral of cost is a benefit. I can start =
with The Anywhere Map/GPS system for $695 and the add to it as necessary.
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I also like Anywhere because it is upgradeable as time goes by. Downside i=
s 3 components as opposed to one with the Garmin. Ultimately I understand =
that the Garmin is probably a superior instrument and ...well....it's a Gar=
min.
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For the kind of flying I do I'm just not sure the cost or benefits would be=
worthwhile or realized.
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Any opinion either way would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks. Don...
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DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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Don, I have no experience with other systems and I am computer stupid, so I
got the G396. I I have the $50/mo subscription so I can use it in the RV-7 and
the company Citation. It has helped me several times in each aircraft. I
think I would prefer the 396 to the radar in the Citation. I can see the whole
picture....no attenuation
Good luck.
Doug Preston
RV-7 N731RV
RV-7A N196VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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jclarkmail(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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I have and have used both.
Both require a separate item to get the weather. The Garmin has a remote
antenna that might get used or one may use the "stubby" that attaches
directly.
The both give you the same basic big picture with the weather.
The user interfaces are different obviously and that is a big item based on
user preferences.
The AMM Wx is cheaper and has more features. The Garmin is more integrated
so to speak and has dedicated buttons (this is a plus and a minus).
If you are comfortable with using the Ipaq in the cockpit then I think you
would be happy with the AWM Wx. If you are the type that just want to know
the three buttons to press then the Garmin is probably better.
Both are really nice products and both have helped me tremendously on long
trips.
James
.. contact me off list for more details (james(at)nextupventures.com)
On 5/28/06, Don Morrisey <donmorrisey(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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using Anywhere map w/Weather versus the Garmin 396.
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bakerocb
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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Resonding to an Avionics-List message previously posted by:
DOUGPFLYRV(at)aol.com
5/29/2006
Hello Doug, You wrote: " .....skip.....I have the $50/mo
subscription.....skip....."
Wow! I had no idea weather info was that expensive. What do you get for your
$50 and from who? Is there some less costly subscription method? Thanks.
OC
<< Don, I have no experience with other systems and I am computer stupid, so
I
got the G396. I have the $50/mo subscription so I can use it in the RV-7 and
the company Citation. It has helped me several times in each aircraft. I
think I would prefer the 396 to the radar in the Citation. I can see the
whole
picture....no attenuation Good luck. Doug Preston >>
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Dan.Beadle(at)hq.inclines
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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I have XM weather on my MX20. About $50. Well worth it.
Although I have on board radar and stormscope, this gives a lot more
information for planning:
- Winds aloft for each 3,000' up into the mid flight levels
- Metars (visual & text)
- TAFs (text)
- TFRs (visual & text)
- Clouds
- Front movement
- Nexrad satellite
- Lightning
Oh, and it does have music....
I find it useful to have the Nexrad working in conjunction with on board
RADAR. RADAR can be attenuated, not letting you see beyond the nearest
storm. Nexrad lets me see "over the horizon".
In my RV, I will probably go with a 396 to get most of these features at
an affordable cost.
For me, the $50 is $600 a year - about the same as the cost of my Jepps.
Just a cost of doing business, of flying safely.
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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XM weather at first look seems expensive at $50/month, but if you fly a lot,
it pays for itself very quickly. For example, these days that would be
about 12 gallons of 100LL. If you can make a flight without having to
divert because of weather that you can't see around or through, you have
paid for that month just with the fuel savings. On the other hand, if you
divert because of the weather on your screen when you might have decided to
fly through it because you didn't realize how severe it was (or were in the
soup and didn't see the nasty stuff) and had problems and either messed up
your plane and possibly your body and those of your passengers, that start
sounding really cheap. If you are flying day VFR, then $50 is very
expensive possibly, unless you are trying to decide if you can make if VFR
(which the XM can very often tell you) then the first example comes back
into play. In some cases you can even save fuel by using the winds aloft
info, although this doesn't seem to have made much difference in N256H over
200 hrs of flying. It is just fast enough that you are best off picking an
efficient flight level with good weather and not worrying too much about the
different winds at different levels/altitudes.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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bruceflys(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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Take a look at True Flight's unit: www.aviationsafety.com
The screen is significantly bigger and the brightest that I have seen in GA
aircraft. The unit really isn't portable, but mounts readily on a RAM
swivel with the XM receiver velcroed under the panel and the antennas placed
on the glareshield. It offers approach plates and approach depictions,
although not for leagl IFR use. Monthly downloads of approach plates and
base map updates costs $199/yr, but saves the cost of paper subscriptions.
After three months use, I am satisfied with mine. Operation does require
some study and practice.
Happy shopping, Bruce McGregor
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paul.mcallister
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 |
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Hi Don,
I have the Airgator systems on my PDA, which is very similar to the Anywhere
product. I like it for a number of reasons. If you buy an up market PDA
then the screen size is greater than the 396. The user interface is pretty
slick and it has some a few "nice to have, but not essential" features. I
also find the product is continually being enhanced. I don't know about the
Anywhere system, but its possible to configure an Airgator system with a
serial cable which plugs into a remote box so you can get rid of bunches of
cables running everywhere.
I find its handy to have PDA because it does other stuff. I have a set of
approach plates on it and although they are hard to use on the small screen
in a bind they are sure better than nothing. I am finding that more places
have WiFi hot spots, so its handy to be able to browse the internet at some
of my destinations.
Finally, if you ever want to its an easy upgrade to one of the palm PC which
give a lot of screen real estate.
If you would like to know more about the Airgator system feel free to
contact me off list.
Paul
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