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Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
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Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
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I've had Smoking Airplanes system installed in my CJ for over eight years. Completely satisfied. The owner, John, provides great product support. ...Blitz
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
[quote]Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:31 am Post subject: Smoke system |
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Byron,
What size tank did you install?
Warren
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Byron Fox wrote:
[quote]I've had Smoking Airplanes system installed in my CJ for over eight years. Completely satisfied. The owner, John, provides great product support. ...Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
<smoke.jpg>
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: Smoke system |
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I installed the 3.5 gallon tank, Warren.
It's adequate for the formation flybys we typically do for local airshows.
...B
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
[quote]Byron,
What size tank did you install?
Warren
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Byron Fox wrote:
| Quote: | I've had Smoking Airplanes system installed in my CJ for over eight years. Completely satisfied. The owner, John, provides great product support. ...Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
<smoke.jpg>
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Smoke system |
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I've got the same system. I put a description and a few photos here:
http://cj6.scitechsys.com/node/188
--Kurt Howerton
W: 916.355.3968
M: 530.312.1299
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I installed the 3.5 gallon tank, Warren.
It's adequate for the formation flybys we typically do for local airshows.
...B
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Byron,
What size tank did you install?
Warren
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Byron Fox wrote:
| Quote: | I've had Smoking Airplanes system installed in my CJ for over eight years. Completely satisfied. The owner, John, provides great product support. ...Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
<smoke.jpg>
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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I have the 5.5G kit in my CJ and have had it for over 5 years. It is a great system. It lasts about 8-10 min depending on how you have the valve adjusted (I keep it at 1/3 open).
Bear
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 10:52 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Smoke system
Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email][mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com][/email]) On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek
Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: Smoke system |
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Thanks guys for all the helpful information on smoke systems.
Keith... I'll be sure to install the external fill accessory. Great web site, BTW.
I'll be calling John on Monday.
Warren Hill
N464TW
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Kurt Howerton wrote:
[quote]I've got the same system. I put a description and a few photos here:
http://cj6.scitechsys.com/node/188
--Kurt Howerton
W: 916.355.3968
M: 530.312.1299
Sent from my phone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I installed the 3.5 gallon tank, Warren.
It's adequate for the formation flybys we typically do for local airshows.
...B
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Byron,
What size tank did you install?
Warren
On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Byron Fox wrote:
| Quote: | I've had Smoking Airplanes system installed in my CJ for over eight years. Completely satisfied. The owner, John, provides great product support. ...Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Gents,
I know that smoke systems have been discussed in the past, but mostly for the Yak. Would one of you have a solid recommendation for a system to be used with the CJ?
I've read about this company, but have also heard pros and cons.
http://smokingairplanes.com/
I've attached a picture of the Smoking Airplanes model that seems to make the most sense for the CJ. Anyone have experience with this company?
And for basic air show and demonstration stuff, would a 5.5 gallon tank be enough, or would something larger be the better idea?
Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.
Warren Hill
N464TW
<smoke.jpg>
On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
| Quote: | It is for adjusting lighting level.
We sell a disc with about 700 A4 pages, with many diagrams which has all the 18T manuals on it :POH; Description; Operating instructions; Maintenance Schedule, and Parts Catalogue.
All in English except the Parts, which is in Russian.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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Sent: 01 April 2012 11:57
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak Knob
Hi Yakker's,
Does anyone know what the white plastic knob is for? It's the one with the russian writing on it. The aircraft is a series II 18T.
Anthony.
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Hi all. Great topic and very timely for me. I find myself having to make a completely portable smoke system. Can someone please tell me the make and model number of the pump most people are using and how many gallons per hour and at what psi, and is the pump 12volt or 24 volt?. Thanks very much. Coop.
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I would personally go for the larger tank. I have the 5 gal with smoke on both stacks and it is never enough. By never enough, if I had an hour worth of smoke it still would not be enough but every minute counts. You haven't lived until climbing up to 10k and drawing a smiley face!
Word on the install, make sure the fill line is as straight as possible, I have a bend in mine and it is difficult to fill as air can't escape unless I open the tank lid.
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I would personally go for the larger tank. I have the 5 gal with smoke on both stacks and it is never enough. By never enough, if I had an hour worth of smoke it still would not be enough but every minute counts. You haven't lived until climbing up to 10k and drawing a smiley face!
Word on the install, make sure the fill line is as straight as possible, I have a bend in mine and it is difficult to fill as air can't escape unless I open the tank lid.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: Smoke system |
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Guys,
Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the direction of John Manduca at www.smokingairplanes.com Spent close to half an hour on the phone with him putting together a system that will be best for what I'm looking to do with my CJ. Very knowledgeable about CJs and Yaks. Great resource.
Coop, give John a call at (661) 713-9050. He may have the answer you're looking for.
Warren Hill
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On Apr 1, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:
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Hi all. Great topic and very timely for me. I find myself having to make a completely portable smoke system. Can someone please tell me the make and model number of the pump most people are using and how many gallons per hour and at what psi, and is the pump 12volt or 24 volt?. Thanks very much. Coop.
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