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 Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: Aileron bell crank upgrade |
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Where can we get the sizes so we can now do this mod to the aileron system?
I cannot see it in the z mods for the wings?
Chris
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1. 05:23 PM - Control Balance (Cont.) (DaveG601XL)
2. 08:01 PM - Re: Control Balance (Cont.) (William Dominguez)
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Time: 05:23:53 PM PST US
Subject: Control Balance (Cont.)
From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com>
Guys,
I changed my mind. A few weeks back there was the thread about the new aileron
bellcrank introduced by Zenith for the 601XL/650. The intent was to better balance
heavy aileron forces with the much lighter elevator forces. If you recall,
I stated that I decided not to incorporate the change in my 601XL. At Sun-N-Fun
I spoke to Caleb about the control stick forces in general by the end
of our discussion, I decided I would try the new bellcrank. I could have made
the new part myself, but I decided to be lazy and I bought them from Zenith (P/N
6W10-1/1). The new bellcrank has a shorter distance from the pivot point
to the aileron push rod.
The replacement took me about two hours and a few drops of blood. Working up in
the access hole was a pain, but the job was not too difficult. When I completed
the swap, I did not even have to re-size the length of the push rod to the
aileron.
After securing everything and ensuring control system continuity, I went up for
a short flight. I was quite pleased with the new aileron response. All I wanted
to do was rock the wings because it is so much easier to move the ailerons.
Based on my experience, I now endorse the new bellcrank. Here are a few
pictures:
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David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours now
Next project under construction: Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370255#370255
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_bellcrank_01_279.jpg
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 08:01:22 PM PST US
From: William Dominguez <bill_dom(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Control Balance (Cont.)
David,=0A=0ADo you have hinged or hinge-less ailerons?=0A=0AWilliam Domingu
ez=0AZodiac 601XLP Plans=0AMiami Florida=0Ahttp://sites.google.com/site/bil
lplane/=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: DaveG601XL <david
.m.gallagher(at)ge.com>=0ATo: zenith-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, Apr
il 7, 2012 8:22 PM=0ASubject: Control Balance (Cont.)=0A =0A--
=0AGuys,=0A=0AI changed my mind.- A few weeks back there was the thread a
bout the new aileron bellcrank introduced by Zenith for the 601XL/650.- T
he intent was to better balance heavy aileron forces with the much lighter
elevator forces.- If you recall, I stated that I decided not to incorpora
te the change in my 601XL.- At Sun-N-Fun I spoke to Caleb about the contr
ol stick forces in general by the end of our discussion, I decided I would
try the new bellcrank.- I could have made the new part myself, but I deci
ded to be lazy and I bought them from Zenith (P/N 6W10-1/1).- The new bel
lcrank has a shorter distance from the pivot point to the aileron push rod.
=0A=0AThe replacement took me about two hours and a few drops of blood.-
Working up in the access hole was a pain, but the job was not too difficult
.- When I completed the swap, I did not even have to re-size the length o
f the push rod to the aileron.- =0A=0AAfter securing everything and ensur
ing control system continuity, I went up for a short flight.- I was quite
pleased with the new aileron response.- All I wanted to do was rock the
wings because it is so much easier to move the ailerons.- Based on my exp
erience, I now endorse the new bellcrank.- Here are a few pictures:=0A
=0A--------=0ADavid Gallagher=0AZodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours now=0AN
ext project under construction: Aircamper=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl
ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370255#370255
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/ailero
n_bellcrank_02_179.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_bellcra
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Chris,
The only part information I can tell you is from my actual hardware. the new 6W10‐1/1 bellcrank as compared to the original 6W10-1 moved the distance from pivot hole to the aileron rod end hole from 85 to 48mm. There is no lightening hole and they scalloped the edge of the bellcrank where it comes close to the rib for extra clearance. I do not have, nor have seen any actual drawings. See attached picture for a part comparison.
Hope this helps,
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From: DaveG601XL <david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com>
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Mon, April 9, 2012 6:07:39 AM
Subject: Re: Aileron bell crank upgrade
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com (david.m.gallagher(at)ge.com)>
Chris,
The only part information I can tell you is from my actual hardware. the new 6W10‐1/1 bellcrank as compared to the original 6W10-1 moved the distance from pivot hole to the aileron rod end hole from 85 to 48mm. There is no lightening hole and they scalloped the edge of the bellcrank where it comes close to the rib for extra clearance. I do not have, nor have seen any actual drawings. See attached picture for a part comparison.
Hope this helps,
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David Gallagher
Zodiac 601 XL-B: flying, 200+ hours now
Next project under construction: Aircamper
Read this topic online here:
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