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brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: partnerships

David Kruger has several videos on youtube about forming partnerships its very interesting stuff



 the best partner is 50  50 thats $50saved  for every $100 incured but the 3rd guy only saves you $17   moor. think about it.  how many moor people would fly if it cost them half as much. probbly moor than twice as many.



 

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ces308

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
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Location: houghton lake ,mi

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: partnerships

Don't do it....just my 2 cents worth....



chris ambrose

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: partnerships

Nothing wrong with sharing a plane.its done all the  time.Gliding syndicates arequite usual.Boaters too.

 Keep it simple. Everyone put in the same amount.  Agree who can fly on what day at the beginning of the season.

  

 Best syndicate I was ever in was an Olympia 2.  There were 12 of us and we each put in £100. We were all at the same stage of  training, just gone solo so it was unlikely that one person was a good enough  pilot to fly much longer than anyone else.We all paid equally for insurance, C  of A and other running costs etc although some members would rather do the  actual work and trade that off against their share of the cost. Not difficult  with a bit of goodwill.

 The best rule was that if you moved on, resigned or  whatever, you left your share behind.. People who left were down £100 which was  not really enough to get too upset about, and the ones who remained enjoyed the  increased availability and picked up a slightly larger share of the operating  costs.. I think that when we finally sold the plane there were only about 4 or  5  of us left in the syndicate and we shared out equally whatever we sold  it for. I dont think that would work if we had paid several thousand for a share  of course.

 Where you lose of course is that when it is a nice  day all the members want to fly. This MUST be scheduled beforehand for the  entire season. If you want the plane for a week yourself and it is not your  `day`  then you just do a deal with whoever holds the days involved and  swap around. Not impossible.

 Certain amount of trust involved and you need to  know the other members reasonably well.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Posts: 362

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: Re: partnerships

http://all-things-aviation.com/aircraft/aircraft-partnerships-a-good-idea/



I was in a twelve member Cessna 172 Flying Club. The plus side, few ever used the plane. I used it often. On the downside, an inexperienced member pushed the plane into the vertical support hangar beams and downtime on getting horizontal stabilizer parts was all summer.

You need good chemistry, so pick your partners well, have good insurance and know what you are getting yourself into, a signed flying club policy contract with rules  a must.



Good Luck

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Rick Lewis

Joined: 03 Jul 2007
Posts: 122
Location: Kingston, Tn.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: partnerships

Like Chris says, Don't do it. Being a member of a club and sharing club planes is one things that works.  Trying to purchase, build, and having everyone do there share is almost impossible.  I have been there and done that with NO luck.  In the end I did all the work and shelled out all the money with promises to pay his share when his plane was sold.  



Once again, DON'T DO IT.

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: partnerships

Trying to purchase, build, and having everyone do there share is almost 

impossible.>>



I would certainly agree with that. I never even considered that scenario 

when this question came up. Operating shares in a complete aircraft which is 

what I was referring to is a very different operation and perfectly workable



Pat

russk50(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: partnerships

I once planned to build a BD-4 with a friend. He then asked me to look at a table lamp that kept blowing fuses. I found  the two wires twisted together! -- 

He said 'don't they have to be touching each other?' 

End of that building project.



On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:



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 Trying to purchase, build, and having everyone do there share is almost impossible.>>

 

 I would certainly agree with that. I never even considered that scenario when this question came up. Operating shares in a complete aircraft which is what I was referring to is a very different operation and perfectly workable

 

 Pat

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: partnerships

planned to build a BD-4>>



Grief!  I thought it worked BECAUSE the wires were twisted together.



Hee Hee



Pat

russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:57 pm Post subject: partnerships

Only if you're building a fuse-blower



On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Pat Ladd wrote:



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 planned to build a BD-4>>

 

 Grief!  I thought it worked BECAUSE the wires were twisted together.

 

 Hee Hee

 

 Pat

Rick Lewis

Joined: 03 Jul 2007
Posts: 122
Location: Kingston, Tn.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: partnerships

Ok, you have seen all the responsive so far so I hope you have made a good decision on this.  I really hope you and other don't make the same bad choice I had made.

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