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Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Ray,
The kit came from esqual north america. The brake calipers and master cylinders are sourced from MotoGuzi, a european scooter company. Years ago we found some parts from a local motorcycle shop. You may try that same avenue. Unless someone who has converted to matco has the old parts laying around.
Nick
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM) wrote:
[quote] Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Ray,
When I saw the wheels and brakes that came with the kit, I knew they were not for me. I think they were for a go kart. At Nick and Pete's suggestion I switched to Matco wheels and brakes while I was building mine - same set up as they had planned to use on the prototype Lightning. I didn't keep the original parts. I really do recommend you switch the entire system - brakes and wheels to the Matco set up. I'm sure the Lightning guys can supply those parts.
Good luck.
Blue Skies,
Buz
In a message dated 4/22/2012 1:20:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nick(at)flylightning.net writes:
| Quote: | Ray,
The kit came from esqual north america. The brake calipers and master cylinders are sourced from MotoGuzi, a european scooter company. Years ago we found some parts from a local motorcycle shop. You may try that same avenue. Unless someone who has converted to matco has the old parts laying around.
Nick
Sent from my pocket
On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM) wrote:
| Quote: | Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:08 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Ray,
should be a good idea to explain what you need.
What do you mean with rudder brake ?
Regards
Luigi
Esqual I-9854
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Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Ray ,
I found this.
http://www.golinelliloris.com/elenco_categoria_Pompe%20freno_settore__marche__inizio_45.html
Let me know if the Rif. 139 at the end of page, is the item you are looking for.
Than I will contact them to know the availability.
Ciao,
Luigi
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Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Lightning-List: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Hi Ray, is this the beast? What we would call the master cylinder in the UK.
http://www.motoszea.com/detalles.php?id=150&usuario=0&idioma=esp
I bought one a few months ago as I thought it was the problem with one of my brakes. It was the Matco brake valve that was letting air in.
The contact at Motozea is Paco, he only speaks Spanish. The other problem was the shipping and customs more than doubled the price.
This was for the full unit.
I opened mine up and it looks fine inside, quite well engineered but not as Buz says for a go kart but for a scooter, moped….
Looking about it was used on lots of European small motor bikes.
Luigi, can you find one like this in Italy? Or maybe a seal kit?
The part number is 1FD15301, original manufacturer was AJP I think.
Regards, Clive
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Sent: 22 April 2012 17:41
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Subject: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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Ciao Clive and Ray
A friend of mine, with a motorcycle shop told me it is very common master cylinder for small motos.
Tomorrow after a contact with him and in positive case I'll keep you and Ray informed.
The brand is correct and the P/N too.
I will ask to the address given in Milan to have info.
Regards
Luigi
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Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 21:16
Oggetto: RE: Esqual Brakes
Hi Ray, is this the beast? What we would call the master cylinder in the UK.
http://www.motoszea.com/detalles.php?id=150&usuario=0&idioma=esp
I bought one a few months ago as I thought it was the problem with one of my brakes. It was the Matco brake valve that was letting air in.
The contact at Motozea is Paco, he only speaks Spanish. The other problem was the shipping and customs more than doubled the price.
This was for the full unit.
I opened mine up and it looks fine inside, quite well engineered but not as Buz says for a go kart but for a scooter, moped….
Looking about it was used on lots of European small motor bikes.
Luigi, can you find one like this in Italy? Or maybe a seal kit?
The part number is 1FD15301, original manufacturer was AJP I think.
Regards, Clive
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM
Sent: 22 April 2012 17:41
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Ciao and Clive:
Thank you for the information. Look forward to additional assistance.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
In a message dated 4/22/2012 4:05:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elledien(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Ciao Clive and Ray
A friend of mine, with a motorcycle shop told me it is very common master cylinder for small motos.
Tomorrow after a contact with him and in positive case I'll keep you and Ray informed.
The brand is correct and the P/N too.
I will ask to the address given in Milan to have info.
Regards
Luigi
Da: "James, Clive R" <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>
A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 21:16
Oggetto: RE: Esqual Brakes
Hi Ray, is this the beast? What we would call the master cylinder in the UK.
http://www.motoszea.com/detalles.php?id=150&usuario=0&idioma=esp
I bought one a few months ago as I thought it was the problem with one of my brakes. It was the Matco brake valve that was letting air in.
The contact at Motozea is Paco, he only speaks Spanish. The other problem was the shipping and customs more than doubled the price.
This was for the full unit.
I opened mine up and it looks fine inside, quite well engineered but not as Buz says for a go kart but for a scooter, moped….
Looking about it was used on lots of European small motor bikes.
Luigi, can you find one like this in Italy? Or maybe a seal kit?
The part number is 1FD15301, original manufacturer was AJP I think.
Regards, Clive
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM
Sent: 22 April 2012 17:41
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Luigi:
Yes, I should know what Ciao means hello in Italian, sorry. My rudder brake has a rather long rubber connection, which is what failed. Those illustrated don't match. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ray Gage
In a message dated 4/22/2012 2:17:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elledien(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | Ray ,
I found this.
http://www.golinelliloris.com/elenco_categoria_Pompe%20freno_settore__marche__inizio_45.html
Let me know if the Rif. 139 at the end of page, is the item you are looking for.
Than I will contact them to know the availability.
Ciao,
Luigi
Da: "FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM" <FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM>
A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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Buz:
Thanks for the information. I agree, it is not a quality part. Am considering using the Matco system. Have the Matco wheels and brakes, don't understand why the builder didn't use the rudder cylinder part also.
Respectfully,
Ray
In a message dated 4/22/2012 1:55:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM writes:
| Quote: | Ray,
When I saw the wheels and brakes that came with the kit, I knew they were not for me. I think they were for a go kart. At Nick and Pete's suggestion I switched to Matco wheels and brakes while I was building mine - same set up as they had planned to use on the prototype Lightning. I didn't keep the original parts. I really do recommend you switch the entire system - brakes and wheels to the Matco set up. I'm sure the Lightning guys can supply those parts.
Good luck.
Blue Skies,
Buz
In a message dated 4/22/2012 1:20:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nick(at)flylightning.net writes:
| Quote: | Ray,
The kit came from esqual north america. The brake calipers and master cylinders are sourced from MotoGuzi, a european scooter company. Years ago we found some parts from a local motorcycle shop. You may try that same avenue. Unless someone who has converted to matco has the old parts laying around.
Nick
Sent from my pocket
On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM) wrote:
| Quote: | Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Luigi:
Each rudder pedal has a separate unit to brake that wheel when pressed at the top of the rudder. It is the only way to steer during taxi. Am considering going to the Matco brake system since the plane already has Matco wheels and brake pads.
Thanks,
Ray
In a message dated 4/22/2012 2:09:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elledien(at)yahoo.com writes:
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should be a good idea to explain what you need.
What do you mean with rudder brake ?
Regards
Luigi
Esqual I-9854
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A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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Greetings; there is a manufacturer of light duty brake parts. INGEGNO, Their products a used on high performance motorcycles . They are as good
as Matco and they are made in Italy. Bob Haas N380BH and N330BH. ELSA.
From: FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM)
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:03 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com (lightning-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Esqual Brakes
Luigi:
Each rudder pedal has a separate unit to brake that wheel when pressed at the top of the rudder. It is the only way to steer during taxi. Am considering going to the Matco brake system since the plane already has Matco wheels and brake pads.
Thanks,
Ray
In a message dated 4/22/2012 2:09:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elledien(at)yahoo.com writes:
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should be a good idea to explain what you need.
What do you mean with rudder brake ?
Regards
Luigi
Esqual I-9854
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Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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Don't get me started on Marc Ingegno - they are nowhere close to even Matco. And the brake pads are 23 EUR a piece.
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Bob Haas <checkpoint2(at)comcast.net (checkpoint2(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
[quote] Greetings; there is a manufacturer of light duty brake parts. INGEGNO, Their products a used on high performance motorcycles . They are as good
as Matco and they are made in Italy. Bob Haas N380BH and N330BH. ELSA.
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Luigi:
Each rudder pedal has a separate unit to brake that wheel when pressed at the top of the rudder. It is the only way to steer during taxi. Am considering going to the Matco brake system since the plane already has Matco wheels and brake pads.
Thanks,
Ray
In a message dated 4/22/2012 2:09:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elledien(at)yahoo.com (elledien(at)yahoo.com) writes:
| Quote: | Ray,
should be a good idea to explain what you need.
What do you mean with rudder brake ?
Regards
Luigi
Esqual I-9854
Da: "FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM)" <FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM (FamilyGage(at)AOL.COM)>
A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com (lightning-list(at)matronics.com)
Inviato: Domenica 22 Aprile 2012 18:40
Oggetto: Esqual Brakes
Esqual owners worldwide.
I need you help. The rubber tubing on the left rudder brake has broken down.
Mark and Nick at Arion have done everything possible to help me find a new brake unit, or rebuild kit. This is a 2005 Esqual kit from Arion, however, no spare parts are presently available. Some of the folks at Shellbyville think that this brake unit may be of motorcycle origin.
I will greatly appreciate any information on this brake system part or where I may find it.
Sincerely,
Ray Gage
familygage(at)aol.com (familygage(at)aol.com)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:58 am Post subject: Esqual Brakes |
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This is a supplier of calipers and master cyls for Esqual brakes.
http://www.ajpamerica.com/calipers.html
Mostly off Gas Gas Trail motorbikes(Spanish origin)
Interestingly I remounted my master cyls(AJP) to get the leverage that Matco
suggests and now the brakes are good to almost a bit savage with the
original Esqual braking equipment.
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Clive J
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As Malcolm says it's all about the piston and the leverage, I have
improved mine no end by moving the anchor point and the drive rod
position.
The geometry was all wrong originally. Also I have two pistons a side
(thanks again Bob) which was a step change but I'd like to put it back
to one, I need to make a little more of a change to the pedals and
master position.
The other thing which he hasn't mentioned but those who know Jabiru
aircraft will be familiar with is reducing the pipe size. Jabiru went
from 1/4 to ?? some time ago to get rid of the soggy feeling which means
not so much travel is needed on the master. That's an easier mod which
I plan to do first.
So although they are for a little motorbike they can lock the wheels on
a aeroplane it fitted correctly.
I've gone off Matco as the brake valve is adding air to my brakes, even
with new O rings.
Regards, Clive
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