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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Ken,
Which make of propeller is it that you have shown in the photos and what
performance figures (including fuel burn) is it returning?

Rgds.,
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Ken,

Very sharp looking paint job !. What kind of fuel tanks are you using for
your long rang fuel system ?

Paul

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Duncan,
 
I'm afraid this data will get rearranged but here it goes. This test was done at 5500'  at a max weight of 1450lbs.  with very little deviation from standard day temp.  Airspeeds are within 1 kt.  These airspeeds appear to stay constant up to 12,500 (the highest I've observed)
 
1.   100kts, FF 3.8, RPM 4500, MF 25.
2.   116kts, FF 5.0, RPM 4800, MF 28
3.   129kts, FF 6.2, RPM 5000, MF 30
4.   134kts, FF 7.6, RPM 5250, MF 33
5.   140kts, FF 8.3, RPM 5500, MF 35
6    148kts, FF 10,  RPM 5800, MF 40
 
I'd appreciate if others would post there data.
 
Ken


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Hi Paul,

The tanks are 6 gal. Evinrude Johnson "Duratank" from the local boat dealer. I use quick disconnect fittings from Europa and the pump is Facet 40105 from Aircraft Spruce. The tanks are strapped to the wing tie bar for restraint.

If you want to fly cross country this is the best mod you can make.

Ken

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Ken,

Very sharp looking paint job !. What kind of fuel tanks are you using for
your long rang fuel system ?

Paul

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Ken,
 
Here are some proformance figures I've collected in the first 14 hrs. on 5CN.  Bob Lindsay used the following for power settings when he flew 5CN and having looked at the 914 Rotax engine book seems correct.  Anyway these are what I used.
 
55%  4300rpm/28MP
65%  4800rpm/29MP
75%   5000rpm/31MP
 
The following were at standard temps or very close to standard and at 1100lbs.
 
1500ft.  55% 4300rpm/28MP    TAS 120KTS
7000ft.  65% 4800rpm/29MP     TAS 134KTS
7000ft.  75% 5000rpm/31MP     TAS 144KTS
10000ft.75% 5000rpm/31MP     TAS  150KTS/138KIAS
 
I used for calculation TAS a web site that Bob told me about from REA Computing www.reacomp.com .
 
craig ellison
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14.6 hrs. having fun in phase 1 testing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

I think you figures might be a little suspect.  The Rotax 914 Operators manual give Take off performance as 5800rpm, 39.9 inHG and 8.7 us gph.  Max continuous as 5500rpm, 35.4 inHG and 7.2 us gph. (ref pages 8-2 & 10-1)
Are you sure that your fuel flowe sensor is correctly calibrated?
 
Are these airspeeds IAS or TAS?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

I will get some definite numbers this weekend if weather permits.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Hi Simon,
 
I wish they were.  I recently put over 1000 miles on N214KS and the fuel required to fill the tank agreed to within .1/.2 gallons of what the gauge said I used.  Plugs look normal.
 
Ken

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[quote] I think you figures might be a little suspect.  The Rotax 914 Operators manual give Take off performance as 5800rpm, 39.9 inHG and 8.7 us gph.  Max continuous as 5500rpm, 35.4 inHG and 7.2 us gph. (ref pages 8-2 & 10-1)
Are you sure that your fuel flowe sensor is correctly calibrated?
 
Are these airspeeds IAS or TAS?
 
Simon
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

These flow flows are pretty similar to what I see on my 914 Mono.  I have a dual sensor fuel flow on my EIS and over the last 400 hours I have found it pretty well "nuts on" for accuracy. - Paul
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

I must be either lucky, or I'm running too low a power setting.  With 450 hours under my belt on my 914 tri,  the average is 4.3 US GPH (mogas).  I usually cruise at 4900 RPM and 31" MP..............rarely less, and sometimes 5000 RPM and 34" MP when I'm in a hurry to get someplace.  I have a Whirlwind CS prop.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Reply with quote

Garry,
 
I wish mine did that.  I find 5.3 gph (at) 28".  Its a real pain because it limits my range for legal IFR.  I have messed with the carburettor needles but I haven't made much improvment.
 
I suspect that the taper of the needle is wrong because at 24" the EGT's sit around 1600, but at 28" they seem to run in the low 1400's.  I'll have to hook my laptop up to the EIS and record a bunch more temperatures at various altitude & power settins one of these days and see what I can conclude.
 
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