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jchang10
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amekler
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 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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200 kts on 10gph!
1000nm range
No price mentioned
Alan
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:31 PM, "jchang10" <jc-matronics_rv10(at)jline.com> wrote:
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civengpe
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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Avweb listed it as $500,000
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)> wrote:
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200 kts on 10gph!
1000nm range
No price mentioned
Alan
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philperry9
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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Sexy airplane. I don't know about the economics...
$390K for 200knot/10gph airplane is quite a lot.
I could fly the RV-10 a lifetime before ever breaking even. That doesn't even include the costs of maintaining/insuring a retract either.
Very sexy, but I just don't think it makes sense when compared to what the -10 offers. It's pretty much the ultimate in performance, carrying capacity, and economics. (Even though RV-10's aren't cheap)
I'd like to see more details like stalling speed, etc. I suspect it's really really high. Like Lancair high.
Phil
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http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_Aero2012_PipistrelPanthera_206547-1.html
Wow, this will be interesting. Looks like another 4-seat plane similar to the -10 and Cirrus.
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EdKranz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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They said 350,000 Euros ($459,000 USD) for a certificated version, 300,000 euros ($393,000 USD) for a kit version.
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200 kts on 10gph!
1000nm range
No price mentioned
Alan
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cjay
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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Some of the features that are unique to the rv-10 that might be worth watching;
unique cowling cooling outlets
left rear seat gull wing door, certainly gives some loading advantages
aerodynamic wing tip
t-tail
ballistic parachute
claimed 1000nm range
12% faster cruise with 210 hp 4 cylinder
probably designed around the IO390
similarities
the gull wings are very similar to rv-10 that I suspect will have the same problems/challenges.
surprising load very similar to rv-10
of course all of these are assertions, but impressive if proven true
should offer a competitive alternative to the high end SR22 and Corvalis market, not quite as fast, but 40% less fuel burn should make it very attractive
offering a kit should hit into the rv-10 market a bit too, pricey, but the quick build will probably be pretty quick with composite parts.
cjay
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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If you really want some revolutionary claims, check this one out:
LP1
http://www.woodward-aerospace.com/lp1.html
$200K build cost (similar to rv-10)
334 ktas on 14.5 gph
designed around the corvette v8 engine block
which makes it faster than a lot of these multi-million $$ turbine/jets at a fraction the cost and fuel burn:
Diamond D-Jet 315 ktas 70 gph
Epic LT 350 ktas 70 gph
Evolution Turbine 320 ktas 40 gph
Cessna Mustang 340 ktas 120 gph
Piper Meridian 260 ktas 45 gph
Propjet DLX 250 ktas 35 gph
TBM 850 320 ktas 65 gph
Can anyone explain how this is possible if even believable?
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: Video: Pipistrel Panthera Revealed |
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The development photos are quite impressive. The designer is not a pilot which is both refreshing and disturbing all at the same time.
I am going to keep my eye on it.
Robin
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If you really want some revolutionary claims, check this one out:
LP1
http://www.woodward-aerospace.com/lp1.html
$200K build cost (similar to rv-10)
334 ktas on 14.5 gph
designed around the corvette v8 engine block
which makes it faster than a lot of these multi-million $$ turbine/jets at a fraction the cost and fuel burn:
Diamond D-Jet 315 ktas 70 gph
Epic LT 350 ktas 70 gph
Evolution Turbine 320 ktas 40 gph
Cessna Mustang 340 ktas 120 gph
Piper Meridian 260 ktas 45 gph
Propjet DLX 250 ktas 35 gph
TBM 850 320 ktas 65 gph
Can anyone explain how this is possible if even believable?
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