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mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.



After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  



Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  



Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.



Any leads on local resources is appreciated.



Thanks,

Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson



Sent from my iPad

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Bill, if you can make it down to Chandler, KCHD, I've got connectors, 

crimpers, etc. Happen to have both right and left Bill archer nav 

antennas on hand, but not a com antenna. Both radios should have BNC 

connector near radio tray unless they are soldered in right angle 

connectors. Have avionics tech available afternoons(he teaches at local 

A&P school mornings).

Kelly

KCHD

Finishing kit, aka 90% to go



On 5/11/2012 7:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.



 After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.



 Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.



 Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.



 Any leads on local resources is appreciated.



 Thanks,

 Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson



 Sent from my iPad






	




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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Bill,



The SL-30 does have a special connector at the back of the tray, while the G430 has a male BNC connector. 



#1 - Getting two fully-functional, panel-mounted radios would be the best option overall, if you have a good way of doing that. A handheld has much lower power output than an SL-30/-40/G430, which, added to your wingtip COM antenna, will be very far from a good option for a second radio. I have an extra SL-40 around that I could ship to you to use for the remainder of your trip. I would have to verify with an avionics person that it would fit into an SL-30 tray without problems, which I could test here, since I have an airplane with each here. I think this would work fine, since the COM radio uses one side of the back tray and the NAV radio uses the other side. Basically, this would leave your NAV portion disconnected, but you would still have your COM. You would still be able to use NAV on the G430 as well as the IFR GPS. Give me a call on the number below in the morning if I can help you by shipping this radio to you (after I test the functionality of the swap). This is probably the most expensive option because of shipping, although many avionics shops are very proud of their connectors (and time, if they won't let you borrow their crimping tools). This would also save you from having to introduce more loss into your antenna cables by using one of the two options below. There is also always the risk that working behind the panel can introduce more problems into the system that is currently, apparently, working just fine. Leaving that all alone is a good way to make sure it keeps working correctly.



#2 - Your best option short of a new SL-30, as I see it, would be to either pick a spot where both cables are close to each other that are easy to access and put a male-female BNC connector on each so you can change which radio is connected to which antenna, which you can easily switch back. Overall this will create more loss in the system, but it should be fairly low loss if you have good connections. 



#3 - The other option is to cut the cable near the SL-30 tray (leaving enough room for a reconnection down the road) and putting a male BNC connector on that cable and connecting it to the G430 COM port (this is assuming that there is enough cable to reach the G430 connector). Then you could either run the G430 antenna lead going to your wingtip antenna to a location where you can hook it into your handheld radio, or making an extension cable with a female BNC on one end and a male BNC on the other end and run that to your handheld radio.



GOD BLESS!



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

C: 352-427-0285

F: 815-377-3694



On May 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

 

 After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  

 

 Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  

 

 Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

 

 Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

 

 Thanks,

 Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

 

 Sent from my iPad

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

I would have bet $20 that my SL-30 had BNC connectors on it. In which case I'd say just swap the coax lines.  I know the Garmin has a TNC connector at the antenna end.

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Okay, now I remember.  There is an odd (RA?) connector on the back. I got my Gamin-required wiring harness from Stein, and they wired the connector to a short length of coax with a female BNC at its end.



So if yours is like that it's easy to swap.

_________________
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Kelly, I could definitely make it down to Chandler.  Please let me know what time would be best and I'll be there.  I'm pretty confident that cutting the SL30 cable and crimping on a BNC would be a sure way of having one, good functioning radio to get home with.  

Thanks much,

Bill

919-824-4179

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On May 11, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Bill, if you can make it down to Chandler, KCHD, I've got connectors, crimpers, etc. Happen to have both right and left Bill archer nav antennas on hand, but not a com antenna. Both radios should have BNC connector near radio tray unless they are soldered in right angle connectors. Have avionics tech available afternoons(he teaches at local A&P school mornings).

 Kelly

 KCHD

 Finishing kit, aka 90% to go

 On 5/11/2012 7:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

> 

> 

> Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

> 

> After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.

> 

> Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.

> 

> Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

> 

> Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

> 

> Thanks,

> Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

> 

> 

> 

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mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Jesse, I agree that #1 would be optimal.  But I'm most confident trying to do #3.  At this point I really don't know where the failure is and it could be in the audio panel or elsewhere.   (the SL30 still lights up properly and looks like it is operating, but I just get static on Rx while Tx function is unknown).

 I'd love to slip a SL30 or 40 in to see what happens... But I could still be stuck is what I'm thinking.

Would very much like to know if 40 would work though.

And maybe a handheld is a dead end.

Bill

Sent from my iPad

On May 11, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Bill,

 The SL-30 does have a special connector at the back of the tray, while the G430 has a male BNC connector. 

 #1 - Getting two fully-functional, panel-mounted radios would be the best option overall, if you have a good way of doing that. A handheld has much lower power output than an SL-30/-40/G430, which, added to your wingtip COM antenna, will be very far from a good option for a second radio. I have an extra SL-40 around that I could ship to you to use for the remainder of your trip. I would have to verify with an avionics person that it would fit into an SL-30 tray without problems, which I could test here, since I have an airplane with each here. I think this would work fine, since the COM radio uses one side of the back tray and the NAV radio uses the other side. Basically, this would leave your NAV portion disconnected, but you would still have your COM. You would still be able to use NAV on the G430 as well as the IFR GPS. Give me a call on the number below in the morning if I can help you by shipping this radio to you (after I test the functionality of the swap). This is pr!

 obably the most expensive option because of shipping, although many avionics shops are very proud of their connectors (and time, if they won't let you borrow their crimping tools). This would also save you from having to introduce more loss into your antenna cables by using one of the two options below. There is also always the risk that working behind the panel can introduce more problems into the system that is currently, apparently, working just fine. Leaving that all alone is a good way to make sure it keeps working correctly.

 #2 - Your best option short of a new SL-30, as I see it, would be to either pick a spot where both cables are close to each other that are easy to access and put a male-female BNC connector on each so you can change which radio is connected to which antenna, which you can easily switch back. Overall this will create more loss in the system, but it should be fairly low loss if you have good connections. 

 #3 - The other option is to cut the cable near the SL-30 tray (leaving enough room for a reconnection down the road) and putting a male BNC connector on that cable and connecting it to the G430 COM port (this is assuming that there is enough cable to reach the G430 connector). Then you could either run the G430 antenna lead going to your wingtip antenna to a location where you can hook it into your handheld radio, or making an extension cable with a female BNC on one end and a male BNC on the other end and run that to your handheld radio.

 GOD BLESS!

 Jesse Saint

 Saint Aviation, Inc.

 jesse(at)saintaviation.com

 C: 352-427-0285

 F: 815-377-3694

 On May 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

> 

> 

> Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

> 

> After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  

> 

> Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  

> 

> Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

> 

> Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

> 

> Thanks,

> Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

> 

> 

>

jjessen01

Joined: 27 Sep 2010
Posts: 50

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Bill, I have a 30 sitting on my bench and could overnight it to you, should you need it until you figure out what the problem is. 



John



.. by phone



On May 11, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Bill Watson <mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Jesse, I agree that #1 would be optimal.  But I'm most confident trying to do #3.  At this point I really don't know where the failure is and it could be in the audio panel or elsewhere.   (the SL30 still lights up properly and looks like it is operating, but I just get static on Rx while Tx function is unknown).

 

 I'd love to slip a SL30 or 40 in to see what happens... But I could still be stuck is what I'm thinking.

 

 Would very much like to know if 40 would work though.

 

 And maybe a handheld is a dead end.

 

 Bill

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On May 11, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> Bill,

> 

> The SL-30 does have a special connector at the back of the tray, while the G430 has a male BNC connector. 

> 

> #1 - Getting two fully-functional, panel-mounted radios would be the best option overall, if you have a good way of doing that. A handheld has much lower power output than an SL-30/-40/G430, which, added to your wingtip COM antenna, will be very far from a good option for a second radio. I have an extra SL-40 around that I could ship to you to use for the remainder of your trip. I would have to verify with an avionics person that it would fit into an SL-30 tray without problems, which I could test here, since I have an airplane with each here. I think this would work fine, since the COM radio uses one side of the back tray and the NAV radio uses the other side. Basically, this would leave your NAV portion disconnected, but you would still have your COM. You would still be able to use NAV on the G430 as well as the IFR GPS. Give me a call on the number below in the morning if I can help you by shipping this radio to you (after I test the functionality of the swap). This is !

 pr!

> obably the most expensive option because of shipping, although many avionics shops are very proud of their connectors (and time, if they won't let you borrow their crimping tools). This would also save you from having to introduce more loss into your antenna cables by using one of the two options below. There is also always the risk that working behind the panel can introduce more problems into the system that is currently, apparently, working just fine. Leaving that all alone is a good way to make sure it keeps working correctly.

> 

> #2 - Your best option short of a new SL-30, as I see it, would be to either pick a spot where both cables are close to each other that are easy to access and put a male-female BNC connector on each so you can change which radio is connected to which antenna, which you can easily switch back. Overall this will create more loss in the system, but it should be fairly low loss if you have good connections. 

> 

> #3 - The other option is to cut the cable near the SL-30 tray (leaving enough room for a reconnection down the road) and putting a male BNC connector on that cable and connecting it to the G430 COM port (this is assuming that there is enough cable to reach the G430 connector). Then you could either run the G430 antenna lead going to your wingtip antenna to a location where you can hook it into your handheld radio, or making an extension cable with a female BNC on one end and a male BNC on the other end and run that to your handheld radio.

> 

> GOD BLESS!

> 

> Jesse Saint

> Saint Aviation, Inc.

> jesse(at)saintaviation.com

> C: 352-427-0285

> F: 815-377-3694

> 

> On May 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

> 

>> 

>> 

>> Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

>> 

>> After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  

>> 

>> Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  

>> 

>> Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

>> 

>> Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

>> 

>> Thanks,

>> Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

>> 

>> Sent from my iPad

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

I'll try to check this morning to see if the -40 will work in the -30 tray.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

C: 352-427-0285

F: 815-377-3694



On May 12, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Bill Watson wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Jesse, I agree that #1 would be optimal.  But I'm most confident trying to do #3.  At this point I really don't know where the failure is and it could be in the audio panel or elsewhere.   (the SL30 still lights up properly and looks like it is operating, but I just get static on Rx while Tx function is unknown).

 

 I'd love to slip a SL30 or 40 in to see what happens... But I could still be stuck is what I'm thinking.

 

 Would very much like to know if 40 would work though.

 

 And maybe a handheld is a dead end.

 

 Bill

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On May 11, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> Bill,

> 

> The SL-30 does have a special connector at the back of the tray, while the G430 has a male BNC connector. 

> 

> #1 - Getting two fully-functional, panel-mounted radios would be the best option overall, if you have a good way of doing that. A handheld has much lower power output than an SL-30/-40/G430, which, added to your wingtip COM antenna, will be very far from a good option for a second radio. I have an extra SL-40 around that I could ship to you to use for the remainder of your trip. I would have to verify with an avionics person that it would fit into an SL-30 tray without problems, which I could test here, since I have an airplane with each here. I think this would work fine, since the COM radio uses one side of the back tray and the NAV radio uses the other side. Basically, this would leave your NAV portion disconnected, but you would still have your COM. You would still be able to use NAV on the G430 as well as the IFR GPS. Give me a call on the number below in the morning if I can help you by shipping this radio to you (after I test the functionality of the swap). This is !

 pr!

> obably the most expensive option because of shipping, although many avionics shops are very proud of their connectors (and time, if they won't let you borrow their crimping tools). This would also save you from having to introduce more loss into your antenna cables by using one of the two options below. There is also always the risk that working behind the panel can introduce more problems into the system that is currently, apparently, working just fine. Leaving that all alone is a good way to make sure it keeps working correctly.

> 

> #2 - Your best option short of a new SL-30, as I see it, would be to either pick a spot where both cables are close to each other that are easy to access and put a male-female BNC connector on each so you can change which radio is connected to which antenna, which you can easily switch back. Overall this will create more loss in the system, but it should be fairly low loss if you have good connections. 

> 

> #3 - The other option is to cut the cable near the SL-30 tray (leaving enough room for a reconnection down the road) and putting a male BNC connector on that cable and connecting it to the G430 COM port (this is assuming that there is enough cable to reach the G430 connector). Then you could either run the G430 antenna lead going to your wingtip antenna to a location where you can hook it into your handheld radio, or making an extension cable with a female BNC on one end and a male BNC on the other end and run that to your handheld radio.

> 

> GOD BLESS!

> 

> Jesse Saint

> Saint Aviation, Inc.

> jesse(at)saintaviation.com

> C: 352-427-0285

> F: 815-377-3694

> 

> On May 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

> 

>> 

>> 

>> Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

>> 

>> After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  

>> 

>> Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  

>> 

>> Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

>> 

>> Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

>> 

>> Thanks,

>> Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

>> 

>> Sent from my iPad

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:24 am Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Yes, and now I remember that most radio shops will do this when they wire up your radio stack. Bill, I highly recommend that you first, before making any other plans or going anywhere, look behind the panel to see if there is a female/male BNC splice about 6" from the SL-30, which would make the temporary fix very easy.



I'll let you know what I find out about the -40/-30 swap.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

C: 352-427-0285

F: 815-377-3694



On May 12, 2012, at 1:45 AM, Bob Turner wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Okay, now I remember.  There is an odd (RA?) connector on the back. I got my Gamin-required wiring harness from Stein, and they wired the connector to a short length of coax with a female BNC at its end.

 

 So if yours is like that it's easy to swap.

 

 --------

 Bob Turner

 RV-10 QB

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372894#372894

mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:58 am Post subject: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Thanks much John and to all others who have offered assistance on and off the list!



At this point I'm committed to cut the cable and hook up the good antenna to the good radio for the rest of the trip... With some help from my RV 10 friends.



Thanks to all!

Bill Watson

N215TG



Sent from my iPad



On May 12, 2012, at 5:52 AM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Bill, I have a 30 sitting on my bench and could overnight it to you, should you need it until you figure out what the problem is. 

 

 John

 

 ... by phone

 

 On May 11, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Bill Watson <mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> Jesse, I agree that #1 would be optimal.  But I'm most confident trying to do #3.  At this point I really don't know where the failure is and it could be in the audio panel or elsewhere.   (the SL30 still lights up properly and looks like it is operating, but I just get static on Rx while Tx function is unknown).

> 

> I'd love to slip a SL30 or 40 in to see what happens... But I could still be stuck is what I'm thinking.

> 

> Would very much like to know if 40 would work though.

> 

> And maybe a handheld is a dead end.

> 

> Bill

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

> On May 11, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

> 

>> 

>> 

>> Bill,

>> 

>> The SL-30 does have a special connector at the back of the tray, while the G430 has a male BNC connector. 

>> 

>> #1 - Getting two fully-functional, panel-mounted radios would be the best option overall, if you have a good way of doing that. A handheld has much lower power output than an SL-30/-40/G430, which, added to your wingtip COM antenna, will be very far from a good option for a second radio. I have an extra SL-40 around that I could ship to you to use for the remainder of your trip. I would have to verify with an avionics person that it would fit into an SL-30 tray without problems, which I could test here, since I have an airplane with each here. I think this would work fine, since the COM radio uses one side of the back tray and the NAV radio uses the other side. Basically, this would leave your NAV portion disconnected, but you would still have your COM. You would still be able to use NAV on the G430 as well as the IFR GPS. Give me a call on the number below in the morning if I can help you by shipping this radio to you (after I test the functionality of the swap). This is!

  !

> pr!

>> obably the most expensive option because of shipping, although many avionics shops are very proud of their connectors (and time, if they won't let you borrow their crimping tools). This would also save you from having to introduce more loss into your antenna cables by using one of the two options below. There is also always the risk that working behind the panel can introduce more problems into the system that is currently, apparently, working just fine. Leaving that all alone is a good way to make sure it keeps working correctly.

>> 

>> #2 - Your best option short of a new SL-30, as I see it, would be to either pick a spot where both cables are close to each other that are easy to access and put a male-female BNC connector on each so you can change which radio is connected to which antenna, which you can easily switch back. Overall this will create more loss in the system, but it should be fairly low loss if you have good connections. 

>> 

>> #3 - The other option is to cut the cable near the SL-30 tray (leaving enough room for a reconnection down the road) and putting a male BNC connector on that cable and connecting it to the G430 COM port (this is assuming that there is enough cable to reach the G430 connector). Then you could either run the G430 antenna lead going to your wingtip antenna to a location where you can hook it into your handheld radio, or making an extension cable with a female BNC on one end and a male BNC on the other end and run that to your handheld radio.

>> 

>> GOD BLESS!

>> 

>> Jesse Saint

>> Saint Aviation, Inc.

>> jesse(at)saintaviation.com

>> C: 352-427-0285

>> F: 815-377-3694

>> 

>> On May 11, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:

>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Coming into town a few days ago my SL30 went intermittent as we flew thru some storms north of Phoenix.  I used my G430 radio to get us in but rediscovered that the limited range of my wingtip antenna will be a problem heading back to NC.

>>> 

>>> After unsuccessfully trying to get some avionics help here at KSDL, my best options appear to be 1) swap the antenna leads on the SL30 and G430 to get the needed range and 2) buy a handheld for backup.  

>>> 

>>> Re #2, I'm here long enough to have a radio delivered.  

>>> 

>>> Re #1 Does anyone know a local avionics tech that would able and willing to help do the swap.  I'm pretty sure the two radios have different plugs (?) and will require some termination work.  I can do it given the tools  don't have them with me.

>>> 

>>> Any leads on local resources is appreciated.

>>> 

>>> Thanks,

>>> Bill "grounded comfortably in Paradise Valley" Watson

>>> 

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Radio problem in Phoenix - need some help

Bill,

Just another option since you don't have the tools to cut the antenna lead and re-terminate it with a BNC.  

You could Fedx the radio to Garmin for an expedited repair.  They are in Kansas City.  Assuming they could repair the radio, you could limp/fly there on the way home and pick it up, or if you have time, have them Fedx it back.  It probably would take a week for all that if you are lucky.

At this point you don't really know that the antenna hasn't failed and the radio is good.  Remember, there is a BNC connector at the antenna end.  Assuming you can get to that, you also could go to Radio Shack and get several double female connectors and several 6 foot BNC to BNC pre-fabricated jumpers and hook the 430 up without cutting any wires.  If you can't get a jumper and a  barrel connectors, I could send them to you, just let me know how long the jumper needs to be.

Bill

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