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Kelly McMullen
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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 Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: Another plans omission? |
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I have looked through the plans from the point where the door halves are glassed together(Chap 45-50), trying to find when you are supposed to put in the rivets that were left out to be able to cleco the door halves in place during bonding. I have not found one mention. Obviously they also were not prepared anywhere in the plans for flush rivets, so it seems that countersinking is the only choice at this point. While I don't expect the later chapters to discuss deburring etc, I also don't expect to have them leaving more than a dozen rivet holes empty on each side of the completed fuselage.
Kelly
Still fighting to get out of door fiberglass hell
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Bob Turner
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Another plans omission? |
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Fill the holes with flox.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:34 am Post subject: Another plans omission? |
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Kelly,
Are you talking about the rivets around the bottom of the door frame
that were left open to cleco the door in place? I do not know if I
did it on purpose or not, but all those were dimpled on my fuselage,
they do have beefy aluminum behind them if I recall so countersinking
should not be a problem.
John
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have looked through the plans from the point where the door halves are
glassed together(Chap 45-50), trying to find when you are supposed to put in
the rivets that were left out to be able to cleco the door halves in place
during bonding. I have not found one mention. Obviously they also were not
prepared anywhere in the plans for flush rivets, so it seems that
countersinking is the only choice at this point. While I don't expect the
later chapters to discuss deburring etc, I also don't expect to have them
leaving more than a dozen rivet holes empty on each side of the completed
fuselage.
Kelly
Still fighting to get out of door fiberglass hell
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bill.peyton
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Another plans omission? |
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I don't recall whether our QB fuse were dimpled, I am 90% sure they were. Section 29-15 clearly shows dimpling those holes, and 29-17 clearly shows leaving out the rivets.
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philperry9
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:17 am Post subject: Another plans omission? |
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IIRC, the plans said not to simple those holes when the skins were being dimpled. I'm just countersinking mine.
Phil
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On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Ah ha, another wonderful omission by the "new" QB facility. They were not dimpled on my QB built in summer of 2009, nor were the longerons behind them countersunk. Which still leaves the apparent fact that they never call for you to actually place rivets in the holes.
Kelly
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