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pilotdds(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:55 am Post subject: bahamas

Had  a great trip to long island bahamas from stockton california in the 10-what a great cross country machine -Don thanks for sharing your beautiful home and your hospitality. [quote][b]

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:26 am Post subject: bahamas

The Bahamas is NOT a fun place to go.  Please don't tell people

it was a fun place to go.



(This is being said because I want to go back there within

the next 12 months and it's getting harder and harder to

find availability because too many darn people found out about

it and are filling up all the rooms!)



So from now on I'm going to keep the Bahamas a secret so that

I can always get my chance to go back. 



Tim

On 6/11/2012 7:53 AM, pilotdds wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Had  a great trip to long island bahamas from stockton california in the

 10-what a great cross country machine -Don thanks for sharing your

 beautiful home and your hospitality.

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:17 am Post subject: bahamas

Ditto on that Tim.  We were fortunate to spend about 3 months there on our catamaran.  Which is also where we were when I thought it might be a great idea to build an airplane!  SSSSOOOOO, I got a call last night from a fellow airpark neighbor saying that there were 2 RV10's just added to an Alaska trip he's going on.... he mentioned the names.... no big surprise here... have a great time Tim.... the guy here is Steve Wilson,,, he'll be flying his Swift.

Don McDonald

  From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 AM

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: bahamas

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

The Bahamas is NOT a fun place to go.  Please don't tell people

it was a fun place to go.

(This is being said because I want to go back there within

the next 12 months and it's getting harder and harder to

find availability because too many darn people found out about

it and are filling up all the rooms!)

So from now on I'm going to keep the Bahamas a secret so that

I can always get my chance to go back. 

Tim

On 6/11/2012 7:53 AM, pilotdds wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Had  a great trip to long island bahamas from stockton california in the

 10-what a great cross country machine -Don thanks for sharing your

 beautiful home and your hospitality.bsp;           =

 [quote][b]

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: bahamas

That's right!  For a while I thought I'd have to do it in

2013.  Turns out getting things organized is a bunch more

time consuming than I thought, and you have to plan

farther ahead than I usually do.  But, when a spot opened

up we quick jumped on it, so now I'm headed there shortly!

Sure is a harder trip to plan out than the islands...but

it's gonna be great!

Will let you know how it goes!

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 6/11/2012 10:15 AM, Don McDonald wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Ditto on that Tim.  We were fortunate to spend about 3 months there on

 our catamaran.  Which is also where we were when I thought it might be a

 great idea to build an airplane!  SSSSOOOOO, I got a call last night

 from a fellow airpark neighbor saying that there were 2 RV10's just

 added to an Alaska trip he's going on.... he mentioned the names.... no

 big surprise here.... have a great time Tim.... the guy here is Steve

 Wilson,,, he'll be flying his Swift.

 Don McDonald

 *From:* Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 AM

 *Subject:* Re: bahamas

 <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>>

 The Bahamas is NOT a fun place to go.  Please don't tell people

 it was a fun place to go.

 (This is being said because I want to go back there within

 the next 12 months and it's getting harder and harder to

 find availability because too many darn people found out about

 it and are filling up all the rooms!)

 So from now on I'm going to keep the Bahamas a secret so that

 I can always get my chance to go back. 

 Tim

 On 6/11/2012 7:53 AM, pilotdds wrote:

  > Had  a great trip to long island bahamas from stockton california in the

  > 10-what a great cross country machine -Don thanks for sharing your

  > beautiful home and your hospitality.bsp; =

 *

 *

pilotdds(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:46 am Post subject: bahamas

Tim,we are actually going to Alaska next June (2013). My flying partner has some connections there for fishing and other activities. I will be interested to read your write ups as they are always entertaining and informative. If any other RV flyers would like to join us we would welcome them. I am curious what the difficulties you are encountering planning the flight to Alaska involve. 

   Jim

 

 

 

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: bahamas

Having learned to fly in Alaska, flying there for nearly 20 yrs and then 

flying down the Alaska Highway to the lower 48, I wrote Tim privately on 

a few of the issues.

Canadian charts take some effort to obtain, I imagine database support 

for some EFIS varieties may pose a challenge. Physically,  a significant 

percentage of runways are not paved, and may have gravel, dirt or other 

surfaces. Wheel pants tend to get abused in such circumstances, and few 

aircraft in Alaska use wheel pants. One can stick to paved runways, but 

it will limit where you can go. I've seen at least one RV-10 with 6:00X6 

tires, which appeared to fit fine and gave the wheel pants a little 

extra clearance over the stock low profile tires. However, that size 

won't fit the nose.

Fuel range is always important because some destinations may not have 

fuel, or it may be priced more than double normal prices. Weather 

reporting scattered, and you have to be able to make decisions from what 

you see in the air. Icing tends to be an issue in clouds near the 

typical MEAs. Just because it is summer doesn't eliminate icing 

potential. There is enough terrain obstacles to make pushing weather a 

bad idea. Rules regarding night flying and VFR on top are different in 

Canada.  There are good resources on the net and with AOPA for 

information, but there are subtle differences that need to be heeded.  

Survival kit requirements differ between Alaska and Canada, and need to 

be carefully thought out with your own camping/fishing/hunting/survival 

skills or lack thereof. Freeze dried food that is well packaged is a 

good choice.  Survival kits will impact baggage space/wt limits.  In 

summary, very doable, wonderful place to visit, but the more planning 

and knowledge gathering you can do, the easier a trip you will have.

Kelly



On 6/12/2012 6:45 AM, pilotdds wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Tim,we are actually going to Alaska next June (2013). My flying 

 partner has some connections there for fishing and other activities. I 

 will be interested to read your write ups as they are always 

 entertaining and informative. If any other RV flyers would like to 

 join us we would welcome them. I am curious what the difficulties you 

 are encountering planning the flight to Alaska involve.

 Jim

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robertbrunk(at)mac.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: bahamas

I'm flying to Yellowknife with the Cross Canada group in mid July. 4500 miles or so round trip. Should be fun. Any help is appreciated for this south Texas flyer. 661G out of KCRP.Regards, Robert



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On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 That's right!  For a while I thought I'd have to do it in

 2013.  Turns out getting things organized is a bunch more

 time consuming than I thought, and you have to plan

 farther ahead than I usually do.  But, when a spot opened

 up we quick jumped on it, so now I'm headed there shortly!

 Sure is a harder trip to plan out than the islands...but

 it's gonna be great!

 

 Will let you know how it goes!

 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 do not archive

 

 

 

 On 6/11/2012 10:15 AM, Don McDonald wrote:

> Ditto on that Tim.  We were fortunate to spend about 3 months there on

> our catamaran.  Which is also where we were when I thought it might be a

> great idea to build an airplane!  SSSSOOOOO, I got a call last night

> from a fellow airpark neighbor saying that there were 2 RV10's just

> added to an Alaska trip he's going on.... he mentioned the names.... no

> big surprise here.... have a great time Tim.... the guy here is Steve

> Wilson,,, he'll be flying his Swift.

> Don McDonald

> 

> *From:* Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 AM

> *Subject:* Re: bahamas

> 

> 

> <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>>

> 

> The Bahamas is NOT a fun place to go.  Please don't tell people

> it was a fun place to go.

> 

> (This is being said because I want to go back there within

> the next 12 months and it's getting harder and harder to

> find availability because too many darn people found out about

> it and are filling up all the rooms!)

> 

> So from now on I'm going to keep the Bahamas a secret so that

> I can always get my chance to go back. 

> 

> Tim

> 

> 

> On 6/11/2012 7:53 AM, pilotdds wrote:

> > Had  a great trip to long island bahamas from stockton california in the

> > 10-what a great cross country machine -Don thanks for sharing your

> > beautiful home and your hospitality.bsp; =

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> *

> 

> 

> *

>

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: bahamas

People who have gone out of the US: Did you get an FCC station license? For something like $160? Anyone ask to see it?

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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: Re: bahamas

I did get the FCC station license. I also have the FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operators permit that I had to get back when I got my Private Pilots License. Guess that dates me a bit. 

I've not had anyone in Canada or The Bahamas ask to see either one. But, since both are required when flying out of the country, why not?

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: bahamas

I did, both the station license and the radiotelephone permit.

Tim



On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:29 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:



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 People who have gone out of the US: Did you get an FCC station license? For something like $160? Anyone ask to see it?

 

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:28 am Post subject: bahamas

Exactly.  Its less than a tank of avgas, and if for some reason you meet a customs guy on a bad day and they decide you need one, it could cause you to throw away hundreds for missed hotel and other arrangements...so no, I haven't been asked for it ever but at least I have one less worry every time I travel.  It's also why I had no hesitation on going with 12" N-numbers....no worry about temporary numbers for each trip, but I also think that they look better if done nicely, and that a self-picked number often gives something of a statement of pride when you can pick it for something meaningful. It is just easier it you meet the full regs when you can.

Tim



On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:30 AM, "dmaib(at)me.com" <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I did get the FCC station license. I also have the FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operators permit that I had to get back when I got my Private Pilots License. Guess that dates me a bit. 

 I've not had anyone in Canada or The Bahamas ask to see either one. But, since both are required when flying out of the country, why not?

 

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 RV-10 #40559

 Transition Trainer

 New Smyrna Beach, FL

 

 

 

 

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pilotdds(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:42 am Post subject: bahamas

Got both licenses one for ship one for me-was not asked for it in Mexico or Bahamas

 

 

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: bahamas

I too still have an FCC restricted operator's license from 1982....it's a piece of yellow cardboard that I filled out by hand, sent it in, got it back with an FCC stamp on it. Do you think it's still valid?



I will have to get the station license, at any rate, before heading north of the border.

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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: bahamas

 	  Bob Turner wrote: 	
		  I too still have an FCC restricted operator's license from 1982....it's a piece of yellow cardboard that I filled out by hand, sent it in, got it back with an FCC stamp on it. Do you think it's still valid?



I will have to get the station license, at any rate, before heading north of the border. 	




Yep, I got mine in 1967 and it is still good.

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

larkrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: bahamas

Guys, I don't want to "muddy the waters", but I just checked my Canadian license, and there is absolutely no reference to any restricted radio operators license or anything else in it.  We Candians all have the "Passport" style license since 2009.  Having said that I did get a seperate radio operators license way back in 1977 so maybe it's assumed that a Candian pilots license includes the radio license.  So for anyone heading this way I can't imagine how anyone will know either way.  Of course this is just MHO.  I will take a look in Transport Canada's maze (web site) for more info.    

Rick

#40956

Southampton, Ont

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM, dmaib(at)me.com (dmaib(at)me.com) <dmaib(at)me.com (dmaib(at)me.com)> wrote

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 Bob Turner wrote:

 > I too still have an FCC restricted operator's license from 1982....it's a piece of yellow cardboard that I filled out by hand, sent it in, got it back with an FCC stamp on it. Do you think it's still valid?

  >

 > I will have to get the station license, at any rate, before heading north of the border.

 Yep, I got mine in 1967 and it is still good.

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 New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: bahamas

I just got back from the Bahamas on Tuesday.  Flew our Grumman AA5, and 2/3 into each flight had the wonderful thought "I'd be there if I was done with the RV-10."



Anyway, flown into Bahamas and Mexico many times and never was asked for radio operator or station license.  I've never gotten either.  I figured when I started making international flights 13 years ago that no one was actually asking for them and so far I've been correct.



I've never been asked for anything going into the Bahamas.  I make copies of aircraft registration, airworthiness, and W&B as well as my pilots license and drivers license each time before I go.  I've had to provide those copies in Mexico a few times, but in the Bahamas no one has ever asked for anything relating to the plane or my pilot credentials.



Stopped an MYEH, MYLS, MYES, MYNN with great service by APP out of KFPR to rent vests and raft.  



And with all that said, I agree, the Bahamas are rather unpleasant and not worth the price of avgas to get there.  (Doing my part to keep the crowds down.)



This flight was also my first long flight with the ADS-B connected to my iFly.  Wow, it was as big a game changer as my first handheld GPS.  Leaving Dallas we dodged storms all the way to Atlanta, well out of our way, and still made it down to Florida the next day.  I would have gotten stuck several times if the ADS-B radar info hadn't helped me plan deviations 80-100 miles out instead of waiting until I could see it.  Not tactical (it's not real time, like on-board radar!) but as a strategic tool it's phenomenal.

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