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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject: 912ul miss Reply with quote

I know this issue has been worked over a few times on the forum but I cant seem to find anything that matches my situation. Here's the deal, the 912 starts fine after warm up on the initial mag check it has about a 150-200 rpm drop on either mag at 4000 rpm. In flight it has an occasional miss at 5000rpm, some more notable than others. It also runs rough between 3000 and 4000 rpm not missing just rough feeling. After I land I can check the mags again and they only have a drop of about 50 rpm on either side. I've pneumatically balanced the carbs and they are dead on at 2500 rpm. The carbs have been cleaned and adjusted. new plugs etc. Also today I flew through a very light rain shower and the engine began to run notably rough at 5000rpm. After I left the area of rain it cleared up. Carb ice ? I do not have the carb heat box installed.
Any ideas?
Thanks EG


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: 912ul miss Reply with quote

Possible leads. Tie it down or chock it good in a dark hangar at night and see if you see any fireworks are visible from the spark plug leads. May be breaking down at higher rpms or causing occasional trouble. Just a guess.

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I know this issue has been worked over a few times on the forum but I cant seem to find anything that matches my situation. Here's the deal, the 912 starts fine after warm up on the initial mag check it has about a 150-200 rpm drop on either mag at 4000 rpm. In flight it has an occasional miss at 5000rpm, some more notable than others. It also runs rough between 3000 and 4000 rpm not missing just rough feeling. After I land I can check the mags again and they only have a drop of about 50 rpm on either side. I've pneumatically balanced the carbs and they are dead on at 2500 rpm. The carbs have been cleaned and adjusted. new plugs etc. Also today I flew through a very light rain shower and the engine began to run notably rough at 5000rpm. After I left the area of rain it cleared up. Carb ice ? I do not have the carb heat box installed.
Any ideas?
Thanks EG


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 912ul miss Reply with quote

Hi EGP,

What are the plugs gapped at? They should be between .023 - .027. The wider gap for the hotter months. If the gap is too narrow especially in the summer you will get bigger mag drops and possible roughness.
The second item is 2500 rpm is too low to do a very good balance. I know it's in the book, but the book could have a few changes done in a few areas. If you balance at 2500 and then run the rpm up to 4000 you will find that they will be off again. 2500 is too close to the idle circuit range and just doesn't flow enough fuel/air to get set up well. Check the plug gaps, apply the thermal conducting paste and not anti seize and then re-balance the carbs at 3500-4000. I would bet your engine will run even smoother. Depending on how your air cleaner is set up you may have taken on a little water, but no big deal as it usually runs through the system especially with 91 oct with ethanol.


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