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Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Hello All

I have recently purchased a Europa and the 6 little warning lights have no labels on them.

What i have is.

TCU Switch, 

Red Warning light , Marked as, Engine Warning (??????)What is this.

Red Warning light,  Marked Starter

Red Warning light, Unmarked

Red Warning light, Unmarked

Amber Warning light, Unmarked.



What are the Standard Warning Lights installed ?



Still have mag drop on left key position, or the bottom plugs.

Changed Plugs, leads, and Caps, Still runs rough, Have not flown it yet.



Alan

rlborger(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Alan,



Where are you located?  Are there any experienced Europa folks any where close?



A couple lights will be difficult to determine.  



If you have a Rotax 914, the amber light and one of the red lights (probably the one next to the amber light) are TCU warning lights.  They should come on flashing when the TCU is powered up.  This indicates the TCU is in self test.  Then the lights should go out when the TCU test is complete and all is well.  If they come on during operation, you have a problem.  Get or download a copy of the Rotax operators manual (and all the other Rotax manuals for your engine) to study up.  They are available for download in PDF format from Rotax-Owner.com and other Rotax support sites.



The red lamp marked "Starter" is probably the starter engaged light.  This light is usually yellow for distinction and so you don't have a bunch of unmarked red lights.  It should come on when the starter is engaged.  Purpose is to know if the starter contactor disengages after engine start.



The red warning light marked as "Engine Warning" may be associated with an Engine Information System (perhaps the GRT EIS 400?).  If it is, it is a visual indication that some engine parameter is out of range.  Then you check the EIS for details.  If it is and EIS 400 the bum parameter will be flashing on the screen.



Unmarked red light not associated with starter or TCU is anyones guess.  Wire trace time.



Understand, these answers are just guesses from personal experience with a couple Rotax 914 powered Europas.  Could be all wrong with your particular aircraft.  Every Europa has been built by and individual who had to decide how he wanted his panel to look and function.  Often this was done without respect to any other aircraft.  Good luck, get as much documentation as you can for your aircraft.  Join Rotax-Owner.com to get access to support and useful video training.  Join the Europa Club at theeuropaclub.org for more support.



Blue skies & tailwinds,

Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208-5331

Cel: 817-992-1117

rlborger(at)mac.com



On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Alan Carter wrote:






Hello All

I have recently purchased a Europa and the 6 little warning lights have no labels on them.

What i have is.

TCU Switch, 

Red Warning light , Marked as, Engine Warning (??????)What is this.

Red Warning light,  Marked Starter

Red Warning light, Unmarked

Red Warning light, Unmarked

Amber Warning light, Unmarked.



What are the Standard Warning Lights installed ?



Still have mag drop on left key position, or the bottom plugs.

Changed Plugs, leads, and Caps, Still runs rough, Have not flown it yet.



Alan

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hello Bob

I live in England in the County of Kent, And have joined the LAA and Europa Club.

First Aircraft purchased. 



I will check all again shortly.

TCU, Two lights + Switch , Maybe Amber and Red, Have not seen these operate , with engine master switch on , with engine running or stopped. (only the Amber at very low RPMs) Alternator or TCU >> ???? 



Starter, yes this one is labled, and does go out after start up.



Low Voltage Light, yes would think one is , But no lights showing with Master On, and engine stopped, Will check this out again. ( Has a Volt meter gauge) shows about 13 volts.



Now , i have seen the Amber light come on during my engine run plug testing, it come on at rough running when the engine is at very low revs, now it this a TCU warning or a Alternator low volt warning.



Have No EFIS ete



Low Oil Pressure, How can i check this, one would think this would be on before the engine is started. But with the â€œMaster ONâ€ i have â€œNo Lights Showingâ€.



FLYdat Engine Display, I think this is telling me it has not been reset after engine service, As after putting the Master switch on, it comes up with â€œserviceâ€ then after say 30 sec it displays cold engine parameters.

Move key to start engine it goes off and displaysâ€ Service â€œ again, then comes back on line after the engine has started and works OK, 

But this display of â€œServiceâ€ in the display is there for a least 30 to 40 seconds before you get the engine readings displayed. So no indication at initial start up.

No little Red Warning light as far as i know, So i think the Red Engine Warning light it to do with the TCU.



Regards

Alan

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:01 am Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Are you able to ask the previous owner?



Alan



On 8 Jul 2012, at 10:48, Alan Carter wrote:



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 Hello Bob

 I live in England in the County of Kent, And have joined the LAA and Europa Club.

 First Aircraft purchased. 

 

 I will check all again shortly.

 TCU, Two lights + Switch , Maybe Amber and Red, Have not seen these operate , with engine master switch on , with engine running or stopped. (only the Amber at very low RPMs) Alternator or TCU >> ???? 

 

 Starter, yes this one is labled, and does go out after start up.

 

 Low Voltage Light, yes would think one is , But no lights showing with Master On, and engine stopped, Will check this out again. ( Has a Volt meter gauge) shows about 13 volts.

 

 Now , i have seen the Amber light come on during my engine run plug testing, it come on at rough running when the engine is at very low revs, now it this a TCU warning or a Alternator low volt warning.

 

 Have No EFIS ete

 

 Low Oil Pressure, How can i check this, one would think this would be on before the engine is started. But with the “Master ON” i have “No Lights Showing”.

 

 FLYdat Engine Display, I think this is telling me it has not been reset after engine service, As after putting the Master switch on, it comes up with “service” then after say 30 sec it displays cold engine parameters.

 Move key to start engine it goes off and displays” Service “ again, then comes back on line after the engine has started and works OK, 

 But this display of “Service” in the display is there for a least 30 to 40 seconds before you get the engine readings displayed. So no indication at initial start up.

 No little Red Warning light as far as i know, So i think the Red Engine Warning light it to do with the TCU.

 

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Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:13 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi.

I have tried to contacted the previous owner, and left messages. 

As you can see from photo.

Red =Starter

The TCU switch has each side a Red and an Amber , the Amber has come on at very low revs so i would guess both of these are TCU related.



the one marked Engine Management maybe to do with the Flydat

and in other standard cockpits one has been a spare , so 6 in total .



I will have another check on it.



Many thanks.

Alan

rlborger(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:59 am Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

HI Alan,



Surely, there must be a kindly Europaphile somewhere in your vicinity who can assist you with your new Europa.  Good fellow, welcome to the Club!



Looking at your picture of the instrument panel.  (Nice panel, by the way)



Yes, TCU switch and the unlabeled red and amber lights to either side are most certainly for the TCU.  Switch is an emergency shutoff for the TCU should there be an issue with the turbo control.  It would normally be ON during all operations.  Off only in an emergency failure of boost control.



Functioning of the lamps on start-up.



According to the Rotax Operators Manual:



"3.4) Engine start

|--<snip>

TCU Function test of TCU

|--<snip>

Lamps  For approx. 1-2 seconds both lamps illuminate and then extinguish.  If not, check as per Maintenance Manual is necessary."



When I go to the hanger later this morning I'll confirm how the red and amber lights should operate during TCU starting check, but I believe that is correct.



As for the function of the lamps in operation...



 	  Quote: 	
		  From the Rotax 914 Operators Manual:


	


"4.4) Caution lamps

4.4.1) Red boost lamp of TCU permanently illuminating

In case of exceeding the max/admissible boost pressure, this has to be recorded by the pilot in the logbook, stating the duration and exact time of exceeding of limits. 

discussions of cause and remedy…

4.4.2) Red boost lamp of TCU blinking

In case of exceeding the "take-off" time limits, this has to be recorded by the pilot in the logbook, stating the duration and exact time of exceeding of limits.

discussions of cause and remedy…

4.4.3) Orange caution lamp of TCU blinking

In case of blinking of the orange caution lamp of the TCU, this has to be recorded by the pilot in the logbook, stating the duration and exact time of exceeding of limits.

cause-indicates a failure of a sensor, wiring, TCU or leakage in the airbox.  

discussion of remedy…"



Go to Rotax-Owners.com and down load PDF copies of all the Rotax 914 documentation.



"Starter" red light seems to work as it is supposed to.



Red light labeled "Engine Warning" is probably associated with the FLYdat Engine Display (essentially an EIS) and probably indicates some engine parameter out of range and necessitates a look down at the FLYdat panel to see what's wrong.  I don't have a FLYdat and am not familiar with them, but I have a GRT EFIS 4000 and that's how it works.



I would have no idea what that unlabeled red lamp is over the G-Meter.  Hopefully, the previous owner can tell you.



For the remainder of the function of the FLYdat, you'll have to work with someone in your area who has one.



I hope this helps...



Blue skies & tailwinds,

Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208-5331

Cel: 817-992-1117

rlborger(at)mac.com



On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Alan Carter wrote:






Hello Bob

I live in England in the County of Kent, And have joined the LAA and Europa Club.

First Aircraft purchased. 



I will check all again shortly.

TCU, Two lights + Switch , Maybe Amber and Red, Have not seen these operate , with engine master switch on , with engine running or stopped. (only the Amber at very low RPMs) Alternator or TCU >> ???? 



Starter, yes this one is labled, and does go out after start up.



Low Voltage Light, yes would think one is , But no lights showing with Master On, and engine stopped, Will check this out again. ( Has a Volt meter gauge) shows about 13 volts.



Now , i have seen the Amber light come on during my engine run plug testing, it come on at rough running when the engine is at very low revs, now it this a TCU warning or a Alternator low volt warning.



Have No EFIS ete



Low Oil Pressure, How can i check this, one would think this would be on before the engine is started. But with the “Master ON” i have “No Lights Showing”.



FLYdat Engine Display, I think this is telling me it has not been reset after engine service, As after putting the Master switch on, it comes up with “service” then after say 30 sec it displays cold engine parameters.

Move key to start engine it goes off and displays” Service “ again, then comes back on line after the engine has started and works OK, 

But this display of “Service” in the display is there for a least 30 to 40 seconds before you get the engine readings displayed. So no indication at initial start up.

No little Red Warning light as far as i know, So i think the Red Engine Warning light it to do with the TCU.



Regards

Alan

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Bob.

Thank you for your detailed reply, I agree with all of your comments.

I purchased the aircraft on 8th June and it was ferried to Headcorn on the 20th, this is when i found the rough running on the left mag,

So its been a month and i have not even flown it yet.

I have managed to talk to the previous owner and he tells me the Flydat has been showing "Service" for some time, and is brought about by exceeding a parameter, say a prop over-speed, and only Rotax can Reset the unit at probably some extortionate cost .

He has been flying with the unite like this for some years,,

This is not good practice, and i am not sure if the warning lights do there pre start checks with Service showing, will check tomorrow.

Also i am not happy with the mag drop .

Having said  this i understand a little, as this is Rip Off England,you pay 50 bucks for a Spark Plug Cap, and we pay Â£33 (47 dollars).

But it looks like i will have to have this Reset and most likely a Technician 

to sort out the mags, as i have changed the plugs,leads,caps, so now special test needed, as these ECU are Â£880 each, apparently a Ducati motor cycle part with a different number ???

Regards.

Alan

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi, I think it was 5 dollars is that 50 bucks,?

Alan

rlborger(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Alan,



A "Buck" is US$1.



So 5 dollars is 5 bucks.  50 bucks is US$50.



Blue skies & tailwinds,

Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208-5331

Cel: 817-992-1117

rlborger(at)mac.com



On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Alan Carter wrote:






Hi, I think it was 5 dollars is that 50 bucks,?

Alan

rlborger(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Alan,



Good luck with the FLYdat reset.  Perhaps if you have to spend that £880 on a new ignition module they will reset the FLYdat for free.



Seems to be a lot of Ducati parts on a Rotax engine.  It would be nice if we could come up with the Ducati part numbers so we could just go the the motorcycle parts dealer and get them there.



Actually, over here, the spark plug cap, item #39, page 70 Lockwood Rotax 9-Series Illustrated Parts Catalog, Part #265 240, is listed at $29.95 each (£19.27).  The Electronic Modules are $925.86 each (£595.82).  The difference must be your VAT.



I hope you can get by spending a lot less than those prices.



Blue skies & tailwinds,

Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208-5331

Cel: 817-992-1117

rlborger(at)mac.com



On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Alan Carter wrote:






Hi Bob.

Thank you for your detailed reply, I agree with all of your comments.

I purchased the aircraft on 8th June and it was ferried to Headcorn on the 20th, this is when i found the rough running on the left mag,

So its been a month and i have not even flown it yet.

I have managed to talk to the previous owner and he tells me the Flydat has been showing "Service" for some time, and is brought about by exceeding a parameter, say a prop over-speed, and only Rotax can Reset the unit at probably some extortionate cost .

He has been flying with the unite like this for some years,,

This is not good practice, and i am not sure if the warning lights do there pre start checks with Service showing, will check tomorrow.

Also i am not happy with the mag drop .

Having said  this i understand a little, as this is Rip Off England,you pay 50 bucks for a Spark Plug Cap, and we pay Â£33 (47 dollars).

But it looks like i will have to have this Reset and most likely a Technician 

to sort out the mags, as i have changed the plugs,leads,caps, so now special test needed, as these ECU are Â£880 each, apparently a Ducati motor cycle part with a different number ???

Regards.

Alan

Remi Guerner

Joined: 14 Dec 2010
Posts: 284

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:15 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Alan,

I been there before. When I purchase my aircraft 11 years ago, the Flydat was showing "Service" because the previous owner had exceeded the max RPM after breaking his prop during a forced landing. The french Rotax distributor - Avirex- reset the unit at no charge. Then several years later and long after I installed a new engine, the Flydat started to show service again, while I was sure I had not exceeded any engine limit. I went to Rotax again and they told me this was before I had reached the TBO limit as set in the Flydat by the Rotax factory! At the time of manufacturing of my original engine and Flydat (around 1999) the TBO for the 914 was 600 hours, so this is what is entered in my Flydat. The unit was reset to zero time as it was the only way to erase the "Service" warning in that case. Unfortunately there is no way to change the TBO entered into the Flydat memory. That means I will have to go to Rotax every 600 hours to reset my unit in spite of  having now an engine with a 1500 hours TBO. 

Now there is only one inconvenience -a major one- with flying with the unit showing "service": while the unit is displaying "service", i.e. during the first     30 seconds after starting the engine, you cannot check your oil pressure, as no parameter is displayed. Otherwise the Flydat is fully functional after the "service" warning is gone. The warning/alarm function is working normally as well.

The reset is a 2 minutes work with the proper tooling connected to the jack on the front face of the unit, so there is no need to remove it from the panel. Check with your Rotax dealer if they do it for free.

Hope that helps

Remi Guerner

F-PGKL, XS monowheel, 912ULS, 950 hours total.



""the Flydat has been showing "Service" for some time, and is brought about by exceeding a parameter, say a prop over-speed, and only Rotax can Reset the unit at probably some extortionate cost . 

He has been flying with the unite like this for some years,, 

This is not good practice, and i am not sure if the warning lights do there pre start checks with Service showing,""

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Bob and Ramie 



Today i phoned about the only Rotax repair agent in the UK based at Banberry  about 150 miles away called Conair i am told thare good and will sort the problem, they charge a Â£1 per mile, and Â£40 per hour +Vat, its expensive, the positioning puts the price up with parts it would be about Â£800 to Â£1000

But Today i have made progress ,set off despondently this morning,getting at the Mags is a Pigs Ears of a job , having to remove the induction manifold to get at the Mags Coil Units,

4 of them and they spark on the compression and the exhaust strokes .

Disassembled the Mags and swopped over the Coils, reconnected, fired up, and the problem was now on the RIGHT key position, so now i have the â€œlittle blighterâ€

a faulty Ignition Coil that sparks the Two Front Cylinders,

Looks like the Part costs Â£350 including Postage Vat, So when it arrives it will take me about 2 hours then all should be well.

By the way i have checked out those little lights , red/starter, red/Flydat, and Red and amber which cycle for 2 secs  to check the TCU, then one red i think this is a spare.

To Reset the Flydat it has to go back to Rotax or it need a Rotax Service computer at hand.



Alan

rlborger(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: The Standard Warning Light

Alan,



Unfortunately, there always seems to be something in the way of whatever it is you want to check or change.



Yes, the Rotax uses a "wasted spark" ignition.  Plugs are fired every 180º when two pistons are approaching TDC, one on compression & one on exhaust.  Makes for a much simpler system.



Looks like you have the problem in hand.  Good work!  You'll get the Flydat reset and you'll be good to go.



Blue skies & tailwinds,

Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208-5331

Cel: 817-992-1117

rlborger(at)mac.com



On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Alan Carter wrote:






Hi Bob and Ramie 



Today i phoned about the only Rotax repair agent in the UK based at Banberry  about 150 miles away called Conair i am told thare good and will sort the problem, they charge a £1 per mile, and £40 per hour +Vat, its expensive, the positioning puts the price up with parts it would be about £800 to £1000

But Today i have made progress ,set off despondently this morning,getting at the Mags is a Pigs Ears of a job , having to remove the induction manifold to get at the Mags Coil Units,

4 of them and they spark on the compression and the exhaust strokes .

Disassembled the Mags and swopped over the Coils, reconnected, fired up, and the problem was now on the RIGHT key position, so now i have the “little blighter”

a faulty Ignition Coil that sparks the Two Front Cylinders,

Looks like the Part costs £350 including Postage Vat, So when it arrives it will take me about 2 hours then all should be well.

By the way i have checked out those little lights , red/starter, red/Flydat, and Red and amber which cycle for 2 secs  to check the TCU, then one red i think this is a spare.

To Reset the Flydat it has to go back to Rotax or it need a Rotax Service computer at hand.



Alan

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Bob, Remi  and All.

I have installed the new mag coil today, and it running smoothly now.

From the engine log i noticed a new coil was fitted in 2009 did not say which one was replaced,

The engine is running smoothly now, but never having a comparison or owned a rotax before i don,t know what to expect.

At 4000 RPMs each mag drops at least 300 rpm , but both now are smooth and have same drop, It is very difficult to get an accurate reading from the Flydat as its digital and not steady. But i would say the engine sounds much better now.



The 6 Little warning lights, Now 5 of them OK.

But the Red ????? Alternator? Battery ? Light, Function  of,



Master switch on, Alternator on, the red light comes ON,

I would expect this as its not charging,

Start engine it goes OUT, sound good to me.

Volt meter showing now 13 volts , all OK.

Now if i turn the Alternator OFF.

The little red light remains OFF ??? No power from the Alternator so it not warning me of Alternator failure .

The volt meter drops to 12 volts as expected. 



So what is this little red light, Low Volts, or Alternator or Battery 



Regards

Alan

Remi Guerner

Joined: 14 Dec 2010
Posts: 284

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Alan,

This is normal. The Rotax alternator is a permanent magnet alternator, so there is no way to turn it off. When you turn your alternator switch off, you just disconnect the alternator/regulator output from the bus. Then the alternator is still working normally, so the Alt warning light does not illuminate. 

Note that it is not good practice to run the engine with the alternator/regulator disconnected from the bus, as this may damage the voltage regulator. 

Remi   

""""Master switch on, Alternator on, the red light comes ON, 

I would expect this as its not charging, 

Start engine it goes OUT, sound good to me. 

Volt meter showing now 13 volts , all OK. 

Now if i turn the Alternator OFF. 

The little red light remains OFF ??? No power from the Alternator so it not warning me of Alternator failure . 

The volt meter drops to 12 volts as expected. 



So what is this little red light, Low Volts, or Alternator or Battery """"""

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:44 am Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Remi.

Many thanks, that just what my Light does,

So you can only see if the Alternator is working by the voltmeter.

But if the Alternator  Fails the light comes ON. 

So i will label it Alternator Failure.

All the Best.

Alan

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Posts: 378
Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Standard Warning Light

Hi Bob Remi  and all.



The weather at Headcorn was good today, so G-PEGY  got airborne from runway 28.

It was a bit like the blind leading the blind as i have no instruction on how to fly a Europa, 

The throttle lever has a normal range quadrant slide from idle to full throttle, at the end of this range a gated position where you can move the lever into the Turbo Mode.

I only used the normal idle to full throttle position today, ( Bob said to use this full range during take off ie the full normal range)( But i,m not so sure as i would move the throttle in the normall range  to achieve 5500 rpms and stop even iff i had not reached the end of the range) ??

With the Prop set to CLIMB Mode on the C/S unit,

So opening smoothly to the" full normal position"  accelerating and rotating into the climb, i found the little prop rev light comes on, about or shortly after rotation the RPM is 5500 with the engine revving away.

So i found myself just getting airborne and reducing the power slightly to put this little light on the C/S unit gauge out.

Passing 200 Ft bring the flaps in slowly then pressing the button which selected Cruise Mode, which then coarsened the prop placing it under more load which brought the revs down and recompensing by increasing the throttle to about 31â€ manifold pressure,

All i can say is the engine sounded much better, the climb was good, it just sound better than the prop left revving  in the Climb Mode until circuit height.

Climbing at 70 to 75 Kts to 1000 Ft, levelled off, speed to about  100Kts reducing back to 25â€ M/P and settling down at about 90 to 95 Kts down wind, this setting seemed to give me enough Power/Speed to make small correction on the elevator control to make small height correction +- 100 ft adjustments, normally i would be +- 50 ft but i am working hard at the moment .

Finals approach i was using 20 degrees of Flap and about 70 kts trying to get it back to 65 Kts , remember this is my first flight.

I found pressing the C/S control back to the CLIMB MODE selection better just after the final turn, this seem to keep the engine revs down, or should i say engine revving away.

I used 20 Flap for touch and goes, and 30 ie full flap for full stop landing, i would say my full stop landings where better.



So How do you Fly a Europa 914 . ???

And the Prop light coming on momentarily , ( the engine seems fine)??

Any advice please.

 

On the last landing of the day with 30 Degrees of Flap ,say about 50 Kts during hold off, i had a bird stick, a  Black Crow , the bird was not splattered it was in one piece with some feathers missing ,

I think it hit the the leading edge of the right hand tail plane , No blood , just a little chip about 3 mm and paint marked very slightly its beak may have done this ?, its a job to say as i don,t know the aeroplane, but i don,t think there was a mark there before !! you have to look for it as its small.

 

Alan

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