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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: OT: batteries in series on maintainer Reply with quote

Greetings,

I recall a prohibition on charging batteries in series at the series
voltage. I have 2 6V sealed lead/acid batteries. I would like to hook
the series connected 6V batteries in parallel with several 12V lead/acid
batteries on a maintainer. They would be fully charged before I put
them on the maintainer. I would consider holding the voltage in the 6V
batteries at 80% of full charge acceptable.

Thanks for any insight/advice/warnings.

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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

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and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: OT: batteries in series on maintainer Reply with quote

At 11:06 PM 7/10/2012, you wrote:


Greetings,

I recall a prohibition on charging batteries in series at the series
voltage. I have 2 6V sealed lead/acid batteries. I would like to
hook the series connected 6V batteries in parallel with several 12V
lead/acid batteries on a maintainer. They would be fully charged
before I put them on the maintainer. I would consider holding the
voltage in the 6V batteries at 80% of full charge acceptable.

I think those discussions were about putting two 12v
batteries in series for 24v performance and the TAPPING
the mid-point between the batteries to power 12v accessories.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with hooking batteries
in series from the perspective of charging/discharging them.
A 12v battery is a collection of 6 cells in series, a 24v
battery has 12 cells. Whether all the cells are in the same
enclosure is irrelevant. The caveats for series connection
is that the size and condition of all cells in a series
string be as closely matched to each other as practical.

In other words, two identical batteries with different
service histories are not good candidates for series
connection. Similarly, batteries of different manufacture
or capacity are at risk for diminished performance in
a series connection.

If your 6v batteries are charged/discharged as a matched
pair from new to discard, they will perform well. This
is true even if they are say charged in series but discharged
in parallel. But if they are ever separated in the performance
of duty as energy sources, then their "alikeness" begins
to diverge and some amount of service life as a pair will
be lost.

That's all very non-quantified. There's no hard cause
and effect numbers to be offered. Design goals for
longest service life calls for treating all cells in a
multi-cell system the same irrespective of their
packaging.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:23 pm    Post subject: OT: batteries in series on maintainer Reply with quote

Bob,

You're right, that was the conversation that I took an incorrect
impression away from. Thanks for the info.

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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.

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and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 07/11/2012 08:46 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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At 11:06 PM 7/10/2012, you wrote:


Greetings,

I recall a prohibition on charging batteries in series at the series
voltage. I have 2 6V sealed lead/acid batteries. I would like to hook
the series connected 6V batteries in parallel with several 12V lead/acid
batteries on a maintainer. They would be fully charged before I put
them on the maintainer. I would consider holding the voltage in the 6V
batteries at 80% of full charge acceptable.

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