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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: leaking access cover

So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.

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haveblue1(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

Gary,



Bottom photo, at about the 9:30 position. Is that an errant screw hole or a glob of sealant?

Bruce



On Jul 18, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.

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bob.hodo(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

Shouldn't that sealant be a dark purple?

        From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>

 To: Teamgrumman List <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:37 PM

 Subject: TeamGrumman-List: leaking access cover

 So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to  seal  it.

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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: leaking access cover

"Is that an errant screw hole or a glob of sealant?"

glob of sealant.

        From: Bruce Smith <haveblue1(at)mac.com>

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:36 PM

 Subject: Re: leaking access cover

 Gary,

Bottom photo, at about the 9:30 position. Is that an errant screw hole or a glob of sealant?

Bruce

On Jul 18, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner  wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.

<IMG_2661.jpg><IMG_2662.jpg> 	

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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: leaking access cover

Yes, it should be purple.  The sealant was applied so hap-hazardly, that there is no way it could seal.  I was very difficult to remove too.

        From: Bob Hodo <bob.hodo(at)yahoo.com>

 To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:20 PM

 Subject: Re: leaking access cover

 Shouldn't that sealant be a dark purple?

        From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>

 To: Teamgrumman List <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:37 PM

 Subject: leaking access cover

 So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he  used had tried three times to  seal  it.

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		  http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List==================

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bob.hodo(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

We ought to have a list of do nots someplace to direct new Grumman owners to.  One of the first ones on that list are do not use any other type sealant on the oval fuel tank inspection covers than the purple stuff Garner will send you from Fletchair.  You will often see the fuel tank sealant referred to as high adhesion and the cover sealant referred to as low adhesion.  There is a reason to use the correct one, folks.

Bob Hodo, GADsden, AL



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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

Except that it wouldn't help to publish anything more than what is already out there.  Some people are just too stupid and too lazy to read.

        From: Bob Hodo <bob.hodo(at)yahoo.com>

 To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:31 PM

 Subject: Re: leaking access cover

 We ought to have a list of do nots someplace to direct new Grumman owners to.  One of the first ones on that list are do not use any other type sealant on the oval fuel tank inspection covers than the purple stuff Garner will send you from Fletchair.  You will often see the fuel tank sealant referred to as high adhesion and the cover sealant referred to as low adhesion.  There is a reason to use the correct one, folks.

Bob Hodo, GADsden, AL

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BARRY CHECK 6

Joined: 15 Mar 2011
Posts: 738

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

Gary:



Guess what I did this past week?



Here are some pictures of a hatch seal.  Obviously not by that sticky finger hatch attack.

Barry

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

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		   So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

 



So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

 



Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.

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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: leaking access cover

I like when the sealant comes off like that.  Was it leaking?  Looks like it was sealed well.

        From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:28 PM

 Subject: Re: leaking access cover

 Gary:

Guess what I did this past week?

Here are some pictures of a hatch seal.  Obviously not by that sticky finger hatch attack.

Barry

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote] So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.

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BARRY CHECK 6

Joined: 15 Mar 2011
Posts: 738

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: leaking access cover

Hi Gary:



No - NOT leaking - - - At least not at the hatches.  Leaking at the inboard rib.

Barry



On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]I like when the sealant comes off like that.  Was it leaking?  Looks like it was sealed well.

 



         From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)>

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com) 

  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:28 PM

 Subject: Re: leaking access cover

 

 

  

 Gary:



Guess what I did this past week?



Here are some pictures of a hatch seal.  Obviously not by that sticky finger hatch attack.

Barry

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		    So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys Tiger.  Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have resealing experience.  The reseal and annual took 6 months.  There was a LOT of stuff wrong.  Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.  The rear backing plate was that far off.

  



So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.  I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.  For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years ago.

  



Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.  The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal  it.





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