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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap Reply with quote

Do you think there would be any demand for a seat latch that had a thumb tab to disengage the latch? They aren't cheap to make (unless I have them made in China). I would get a PMA for them. Direct replacement.

I have a set installed in a customers plane as a test. I think it makes the whole 'putting the seat back down' a lot easier.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap Reply with quote

Speaking for myself, the current latches don’t seem so bad I’d look to replace them.  I only flip my back seats about once a year and find getting the back cushions on/off to be the only annoying part of the job.

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Do you think there would be any demand for a seat latch that had a thumb tab to disengage the latch? They aren't cheap to make (unless I have them made in China). I would get a PMA for them. Direct replacement.

I have a set installed in a customers plane as a test. I think it makes the whole 'putting the seat back down' a lot easier.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap Reply with quote

Well, all I can say is that after trying it on the one installation, it's an awesome improvement over the latch thats in there. For $25 to 30 a set and about 20 minutes installation, it makes a serious difference in convenience.

Sure, like most poorly conceived designs, there is always a work around. The current latch is just one example.

"Never leave well enough alone." - Raymond Loewy. The most influential engineer of the twentieth century.

Gary
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:38 PM, "n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com" <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote] I agree with Dan. I flip my seats often as sometimes I take people for rides and sometimes I carry stuff and dogs. I have never had a problem with the latches as they are.

Brock

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Speaking for myself, the current latches don’t seem so bad I’d look to replace them. I only flip my back seats about once a year and find getting the back cushions on/off to be the only annoying part of the job


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap Reply with quote

I'm in !

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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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Well, all I can say is that after trying it on the one installation, it's an awesome improvement over the latch thats in there. For $25 to 30 a set and about 20 minutes installation, it makes a serious difference in convenience. 


Sure, like most poorly conceived designs, there is always a work around. The current latch is just one example. 
"Never leave well enough alone." - Raymond Loewy. The most influential engineer of the twentieth century. 

Gary
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:38 PM, "n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com (n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com)" <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com (n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

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I agree with Dan. I flip my seats often as sometimes I take people for rides and sometimes I carry stuff and dogs. I have never had a problem with the latches as they are.

Brock

From my HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network

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Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 2:19 pm


Speaking for myself, the current latches don’t seem so bad I’d look to replace them.  I only flip my back seats about once a year and find getting the back cushions on/off to be the only annoying part of the job.
 
Dan Schmitz
Tiger 4518B
KASH
 
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
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Do you think there would be any demand for a seat latch that had a thumb tab to disengage the latch?  They aren't cheap to make (unless I have them made in China).  I would get a PMA for them.  Direct replacement.

I have a set installed in a customers plane as a test.  I think it makes the whole 'putting the seat back down' a lot easier.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap Reply with quote

The ones I made by hand took about an hour each. I figured I could get a machine shop to stamp out a dozen for $5.00/set. then, sell them for $20/set. Boy was I wrong. I would need to buy 200 sets to get the price to $7.12/set.

I guess the cowling proves I'm not in this for the money.

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On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:40 PM, "n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com" <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote] What? I thought you said expensive. 25 ain't expensive. Hell, you can't buy a spark plug for 25.

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Well, all I can say is that after trying it on the one installation, it's an awesome improvement over the latch thats in there. For $25 to 30 a set and about 20 minutes installation, it makes a serious difference in convenience.

Sure, like most poorly conceived designs, there is always a work around. The current latch is just one example.

"Never leave well enough alone." - Raymond Loewy. The most influential engineer of the twentieth century.

Gary
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:38 PM, "n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com" <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree with Dan. I flip my seats often as sometimes I take people for rides and sometimes I carry stuff and dogs. I have never had a problem with the latches as they are.
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> Brock
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> From my HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network
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> From: "Dan Schmitz" <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Filed under: a better mousetrap
> Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 2:19 pm
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> Speaking for myself, the current latches don’t seem so bad I’d look to replace them. I only flip my back seats about once a year and find getting the back cushions on/off to be the only annoying part of the job


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