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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: gasoline |
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I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some research for
our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect when the
alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this knowledge base
has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are going to be
dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over, everywhere
at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every size. Can
we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water effect? Can
we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local airports
and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am not sure
they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel can -
green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some sort -
I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads together and
tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2 and 4
strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS already
states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: gasoline |
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Ted, I buy avgas as a treat for my Shovelhead. I can't put it directly into
the tank, but I can buy a can of gas and put it in at home.
Lobby your state to keep ethanol out of high test gas. Most people by the
cheapest grade, anyway, so that's where we get the most bang for the buck,
so to speak.
On 6/2/06, tc1917 <tc1917(at)hughes.net> wrote:
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I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some research
for
our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect when
the
alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this knowledge
base
has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are going to
be
dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over,
everywhere
at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every
size. Can
we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water
effect? Can
we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local
airports
and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am not
sure
they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel can -
green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some sort
-
I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads together
and
tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2 and 4
strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS already
states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
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when you live at the airport.
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Dave Pelletier
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: gasoline |
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Flying farmers have been using "tractor gas" for 70 years.
Long before the mogas STC was conceived. I have to admit that
I have always liked the sweet smell of avgas. Cargas is nasty
when it drips on the floor mat. Ruins a good cigar.
If you can come up with an anti-knock additive that works, better
tell the oil refiners. Otherwise we are stuck with ethanol.
-BB do not archive
On 2, Jun 2006, at 9:51 AM, Richard Girard wrote:
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Ted, I buy avgas as a treat for my Shovelhead. I can't put it directly
into
the tank, but I can buy a can of gas and put it in at home.
Lobby your state to keep ethanol out of high test gas. Most people by
the
cheapest grade, anyway, so that's where we get the most bang for the
buck,
so to speak.
On 6/2/06, tc1917 <tc1917(at)hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some
> research
> for
> our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect
> when
> the
> alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
> suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this
> knowledge
> base
> has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are
> going to
> be
> dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over,
> everywhere
> at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every
> size. Can
> we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water
> effect? Can
> we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local
> airports
> and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am
> not
> sure
> they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel
> can -
> green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some
> sort
> -
> I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads
> together
> and
> tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2
> and 4
> strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS
> already
> states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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Dwight Kottke
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: gasoline |
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Mr. Bean, I am one of those original Flying Farmers. You have left the
cat out of the bag. We have also stopped turning our corn into clear
liquid in Mason jars (for medicinal purposes only) and selling it to all
those thirsty SUVers. No more revenuers running around the place!
Dwight Kottke
The Flying Farmer
Original Firestar (wounded in a hard landing, soon to return to the sky)
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Flying farmers have been using "tractor gas" for 70 years.
Long before the mogas STC was conceived. I have to admit that
I have always liked the sweet smell of avgas. Cargas is nasty
when it drips on the floor mat. Ruins a good cigar.
If you can come up with an anti-knock additive that works, better
tell the oil refiners. Otherwise we are stuck with ethanol.
-BB do not archive
On 2, Jun 2006, at 9:51 AM, Richard Girard wrote:
| Quote: |
Ted, I buy avgas as a treat for my Shovelhead. I can't put it directly
into
the tank, but I can buy a can of gas and put it in at home.
Lobby your state to keep ethanol out of high test gas. Most people by
the
cheapest grade, anyway, so that's where we get the most bang for the
buck,
so to speak.
On 6/2/06, tc1917 <tc1917(at)hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know it was probably discussed recently but I need to do some
> research
> for
> our ultralight club. Namely, what, if any difference may we expect
> when
> the
> alcohol starts dumping into our gas. I can find several studies and
> suggestions by others in the field but want to know what this
> knowledge
> base
> has to say about it. What can we expect and what conditions are
> going to
> be
> dangerous; What we can do about it. It is going to be all over,
> everywhere
> at one time and this looks like a disaster to air craft of every
> size. Can
> we use something to lesson the problem or neutralize the water
> effect? Can
> we use Marvel Mystery oil in our gas (or oil). Going to the local
> airports
> and filling a can with avgas is out of the question for most. I am
> not
> sure
> they will even sell it to you like that. (gas can - red -- diesel
> can -
> green -- avgas can - ?. I know a bunch of you are engineers of some
> sort
> -
> I have heard you blert it out long enough. Now, put your heads
> together
> and
> tell us for sure and forever, can we use the crap in our tanks on 2
> and 4
> strokers, etc. Ted Cowan, Alabama. p.s. I already know ROSUCKS
> already
> states NOT to use this in our engines. But what is the ulternative?
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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