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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Hi

For a couple a months ago, we had a tread around cut-out for ventilation in the cabin.
I have been flying with NACA cut outs for some years, but someone suggested another "round" valve, and it looked very nice - now I am just not able to find that thread ..... grrr..!!
Can someone help me .. ?

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Gert Dalgaard
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Hi Gert
I think you are referring to the Ultimate vent, I have a pair fitted and they work well
even in 40C temps, Mine are fitted just below the front screen and give you cool air
to your face and not your knee,
regards
Ivor
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Hi

For a couple a months ago, we had a tread around cut-out for ventilation in the cabin.
I have been flying with NACA cut outs for some years, but someone suggested another "round" valve, and it looked very nice - now I am just not able to find that thread .....  grrr..!!
Can someone help me  .. ?

Regards
Gert Dalgaard
OY-GDS
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:36 am    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Ivor - it was exactly the thread/vents I was looking for!Looks super.
How are they mounted from the outside?
And could I have the cheek to ask for a picture taken from the outside ... Smile
And question at the Forum - someone having one or two of these vents laying around and want to sell (like I have got a thousand items just sitting in the shop ..).
Regards Gert

Den 28/08/2012 kl. 09.16 skrev PHILLIPS I <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com (ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com)>:
[quote]Hi Gert
I think you are referring to the Ultimate vent, I have a pair fitted and they work well
even in 40C temps, Mine are fitted just below the front screen and give you cool air
to your face and not your knee,
regards
Ivor
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Hi

For a couple a months ago, we had a tread around cut-out for ventilation in the cabin.
I have been flying with NACA cut outs for some years, but someone suggested another "round" valve, and it looked very nice - now I am just not able to find that thread ..... grrr..!!
Can someone help me .. ?

Regards
Gert Dalgaard
OY-GDS
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Hi Ivor,

How did you drill the holes, what tool did you use to make it clean?

Max  Cointe
F-PMLH Europa_TriGear
Kit #560 912ULS Airmaster 450 hours
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Hi Gert

They are very easy to fit, Just a hole saw and some Redux and you are good to go,

I have painted them since these picture's were taken but cannot find them in my Build

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regards

Ivor

On 28 August 2012 13:35, Gert Dalgaard Sørensen <stabelvej9(at)gmail.com (stabelvej9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ivor - it was exactly the thread/vents I was looking for!
Looks super.
How are they mounted from the outside?

And could I have the cheek to ask for a picture taken from the outside ... Smile



And question at the Forum - someone having one or two of these vents laying around and want to sell (like I have got a thousand items just sitting in the shop ..).



Regards Gert




















Den 28/08/2012 kl. 09.16 skrev PHILLIPS I <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com (ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com)>:


Hi Gert

I think you are referring to the Ultimate vent, I have a pair fitted and they work well

even in 40C temps, Mine are fitted just below the front screen and give you cool air

to your face and not your knee,

regards

Ivor
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Hi

For a couple a months ago, we had a tread around cut-out for ventilation in the cabin.
I have been flying with NACA cut outs for some years, but someone suggested another "round" valve, and it looked very nice - now I am just not able to find that thread ..... grrr..!!
Can someone help me .. ?

Regards
Gert Dalgaard
OY-GDS
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Gents,
I documented the "Ultimate Ventilators" & their installation in my build diary on EuropaOwners.org.
Here is the page on the ventilators:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=63921
Here is the installation:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=66265&g2_page=2
I list the sizes of hole saws needed & technique on individual pics.

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Hi Ivor,

How did you drill the holes, what tool did you use to make it clean?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Robert,
I'm thinking of using those vents also,
Those pictures are a lot more use than the info. On the spruce website.
they look fixed or does the inside rotate to direct air in any direction ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:31 pm    Post subject: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

Steve,

The vents don't direct the air, as in up/down or left/right. They adjust the volume of air. As others have stated, they work very well at bringing in an impressive volume of air for their size.

I suppose you could fabricate a box with an eyeball outlet to point it where you want it.

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Robert,
I'm thinking of using those vents also,
Those pictures are a lot more use than the info. On the spruce website.
they look fixed or does the inside rotate to direct air in any direction ?

Steve. Europa #630


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:40 am    Post subject: writing about Vents Reply with quote

The ones Europa puts in the kit didn't not last were long on my plane. I think on the second flight the outside flap fell off the plane. Now I have an ugly NACA vent hole on the pilot's side.

Anybody have a flap that they didn't use. I'd like to replace the lost flap and cover the Naca vents and install the eyeball type vents.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Ventilation ... Reply with quote

AirEupora wrote:
Anybody have a flap that they didn't use. I'd like to replace the lost flap and cover the Naca vents and install the eyeball type vents.

Man I just tossed mine right in the trash can a few months ago. Should have kept them for requests like yours. I'm planning on using the Ultimate Ventilator.

When your passenger becomes air sick, the best thing for them is a face full of fresh air.

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