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Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?

 
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Clive J



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel? Reply with quote

Hi Luigi, on My Esqual (great big flap model) I use 10 degrees for take-off, maybe a little less.

A question: Is there a way of limiting the maximum flap travel electrically? Within the motor unit? Anyone had one apart?
Thanks, Clive

Regards

From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli
Sent: 04 September 2012 08:11
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Subject: Flap setting

Hello everybody,

on the Esqual POH I found different instructions about the setting of flap for take-off.

If the setting for landing is well described from Clive and others, with all the problems arising with the trim, setting the flap at full travel, is there any info

concerning the approximate setting for take-off ?

The Esqual manual says "between 20 and 30 degrees". I believe this is not right.

Any one experienced different setting ? With the behaviour of the plane in this condition.

Thanks

Luigi

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elledien



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel? Reply with quote

Thank you , Clive.
More or less the amount I calculate to be correct.
Yesterday I checked it and should be 11 degrees.The full travel is around 40 degrees. I believe 20/22 degrees is more than enough to land safely
In case of go-around, with 40 of flap, should be very dangerous to forget the flap down (or in case of failure to retract) because the stabilizer may suffer the shadow of the wing and became inoperative. Situation not very good.
For the limit of travel, I opened a similar actuator and, inside, there are two screws which allow to adjust the travel of the motor moving the switches .
Tomorrow I'll try to find the old actuator and take a picture.
Ciao,
Luigi
Da: "James, Clive R" <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>
A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Inviato: Mercoledė 5 Settembre 2012 21:47
Oggetto: RE: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?


Hi Luigi, on My Esqual (great big flap model) I use 10 degrees for take-off, maybe a little less.

A question: Is there a way of limiting the maximum flap travel electrically? Within the motor unit? Anyone had one apart?
Thanks, Clive

Regards
 
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli
Sent: 04 September 2012 08:11
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Flap setting

Hello everybody,

on the Esqual POH I found different instructions about the setting of flap for take-off.

If the setting for landing is well described from Clive and others, with all the problems arising with the trim, setting the flap at full travel, is there any info

concerning the approximate setting for take-off ?

The Esqual manual says "between 20 and 30 degrees". I believe this is not right.

Any one experienced different setting ? With the behaviour of the plane in this condition.

Thanks

Luigi
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Clive J



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel? Reply with quote

Thanks Luigi, A picture would be great, the rods are very close to the central beam bracings so I’d like to hold the actuator back a small amount.

Certainly 38 degrees (I think it was) of flap needs using with care and knowledge of the implications. Pitch up on go around was horrible and the stick didn’t do much to the pitch.
We must remember the accident with Bruno, was that ever explained by the investigation?

Regards, Clive


From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli
Sent: 05 September 2012 21:59
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?

Thank you , Clive.

More or less the amount I calculate to be correct.

Yesterday I checked it and should be 11 degrees.The full travel is around 40 degrees. I believe 20/22 degrees is more than enough to land safely

In case of go-around, with 40 of flap, should be very dangerous to forget the flap down (or in case of failure to retract) because the stabilizer may suffer the shadow of the wing and became inoperative. Situation not very good.

For the limit of travel, I opened a similar actuator and, inside, there are two screws which allow to adjust the travel of the motor moving the switches .

Tomorrow I'll try to find the old actuator and take a picture.

Ciao,

Luigi


Da: "James, Clive R" <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>
A: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Inviato: Mercoledė 5 Settembre 2012 21:47
Oggetto: RE: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?


Hi Luigi, on My Esqual (great big flap model) I use 10 degrees for take-off, maybe a little less.



A question: Is there a way of limiting the maximum flap travel electrically? Within the motor unit? Anyone had one apart?

Thanks, Clive



Regards



From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli
Sent: 04 September 2012 08:11
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Flap setting



Hello everybody,
on the Esqual POH I found different instructions about the setting of flap for take-off.
If the setting for landing is well described from Clive and others, with all the problems arising with the trim, setting the flap at full travel, is there any info
concerning the approximate setting for take-off ?
The Esqual manual says "between 20 and 30 degrees". I believe this is not right.
Any one experienced different setting ? With the behaviour of the plane in this condition.
Thanks
Luigi
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