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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Posts: 362

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: Kolb Seat Question

In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my flat seat.  Anyone have any suggestions.



 The Kolb seat in this photo looks Ideal.

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phactor9

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 78

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: Kolb Seat Question

My solution? An ugly green $9.95 Walmart / KMart / Academy Sports bass boat seat trimmed of all ribbing and edging. This produces a nice rear-end-shaped bucket that the Kolb Firefly sling then supports quite nicely. Use four 1/4" blind nuts and bolts with metal straps underneath to fasten the shell to the lower seat bar on the Kolb cage. This actually aided in scooting me back an additional 5 - 6 inches (I'm 6' 7").

 

Then I bought some cheap naugahyde-like fabric and sewed a wedge shaped cushion with a zipper I then filled with extra firm foam, using Velcro to hold it to the seat.

 

http://phactor.com/BassSeat1.jpg

http://phactor.com/BassSeat2.jpg

 

Phil H.

FF11-4-76



 

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In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my flat seat.  Anyone have any suggestions.



The Kolb seat in this photo looks Ideal.



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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

Phil,



   Great idea, I'll look into it, and thanks for posting the photos as well .

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Carolina Flyer

Joined: 03 Oct 2010
Posts: 62
Location: Buffalo, South Carolina

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

That seat belongs to David LeGrand out of Winston Salem North Carolina. I know because I'm the 1 to turn him on to those seats and he uses them and all his Lazairs and Kolbs that he rebuilds. That seat is the buckets seat that is sold on Aircraft Spruce. it is all fiberglass. The seat cover comes from air-tech,... I would be using 1 of those seats myself but I'm a little too wide for it

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Carolina Flyer

Joined: 03 Oct 2010
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Location: Buffalo, South Carolina

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

That seat belongs to David LeGrand out of Winston Salem North Carolina. I know because I'm the 1 to turn him on to those seats and he uses them and all his Lazairs and kolbs that he rebuilds. That seat is the buckets seat that is sold on Aircraft Spruce. it is all fiberglass. The seat cover comes from air-tech,... I would be using 1 of those seats myself but I'm a little too wide for it

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503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch

Challenger II
503 Tall Drive

Location : Buffalo South Carolina

Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Posts: 362

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

Hand layed up for extreme lightness. Wt. 3 lbs. 10 oz. 

Thats it !



The below seat dimensions are as follows,



18" wide

21" high

16" deep.

Thanks C-Flyer

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phactor9

Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 78

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: Kolb Seat Question

$9.95 ugly green Bass Boat seat (painted white), trimmed of all ribs and perimeter: 14oz.  Hardware: probably one oz.



Phil H.

FF11-4-76



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Hand layed up for extreme lightness. Wt. 3 lbs. 10 oz. 

Thats it !



Thanks C-Flyer



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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: Kolb Seat Question

At 10:07 AM 9/18/12 -0700, you wrote:

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In rough air I feel like I'm sliding around too much for comfort. I'm 

looking for a seat that conforms and supports the body better then just my 
	


flat seat.  Anyone have any suggestions.

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Dennis,



I am six feet tall, but very short legs, so that the web seat installed as 

it was designed for the FireFly did not allow me to reach the rudder pedals. 

 To slide my self closer to the rudder pedals, I removed the rivets that 

attached the seat to the rear cross tube and tighten the lacing on the top 

of the seat.  This turned the seat into a true sling seat.



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		  From this I discovered two things.  It did slide me forward so that I could 

reach the rudder pedals, but at the same time it allowed the lower cheeks to 
	


swing from side to side, and the front seat cross tube cut into the back of 

my legs.  To remove pressure on the back of the legs, I installed a cheek 

board with a memory foam cushion.  The uncomfortable lower cheek swing was 

controlled by tightening the seat belt. 



Also, I use double shoulder belts.  In rough air, I have found that I am 

quite comfortable as long as my hips do not swing from side to side and my 

shoulders do not come off the seat.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1670
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

Or you could invest a lot more time, money, and effort and do one of these.



http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20seat%20page.html

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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Posts: 362

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Kolb Seat Question

Richard... that's very extravagant and nice.



I'm going to try this bass fish boat 3.5 pound Indestructible heavy duty plastic polyurethane contoured seat at only $11.96 on sale at Wal mart. I'll let you know how it works out. No more slip/sliding around in turbulence, I hope !

My Physique is a bit of a problem also.

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