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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:36 am    Post subject: speed Reply with quote

Congrats, Lynn. I want to hear how you do at circles on a point in 30 mph wind! I can’t relate to 2 mph, since I just came from ABQ to Dallas at 260 (ground speed) in my Lancair 360. OK I admit I had a 35 mph tailwind. BUT. I am now covering the wings on My Mod 4 1200 Speedster, with aluminum skin on the upper leading surface. Expect to have my Viking engine in December and fly it next spring.

Question: has anyone found a good way to get the paper off the Skystar plastic windows after 18 years of storage? Second question: How would a Speedster handle with the horizontal tail from a Lancair 320- about 2 feet less span and 40% less surface area on the stab and elevator? It would surely add some speed, but would it have enough control landing?

Ed Gray, Dallas, speedster building
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Lynn Matteson



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:51 am    Post subject: speed Reply with quote

Hi Ed-
I would think those circles in a 30 mph wind would be like pylon
racing, or at the least they'd be oval circles!

I have a friend with a Zenith 701 that he put a Viking in.....a few
"growing pains" but he got it going, and it flies well.

I got the paper off my side windows (only 11 years on mine, though)
by sheer manpower....just pulling....no heat applied. It might be
easier to buy new material.

I'm no engineer, but going to less surface doesn't sound
good....remember they ADDED surface area to the model IV.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with 1376 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)


On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Ed Gray wrote:

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Congrats, Lynn. I want to hear how you do at circles on a point in
30 mph wind! I can’t relate to 2 mph, since I just came from ABQ
to Dallas at 260 (ground speed) in my Lancair 360. OK I admit I
had a 35 mph tailwind. BUT. I am now covering the wings on My Mod
4 1200 Speedster, with aluminum skin on the upper leading surface.
Expect to have my Viking engine in December and fly it next spring.

Question: has anyone found a good way to get the paper off the
Skystar plastic windows after 18 years of storage? Second
question: How would a Speedster handle with the horizontal tail
from a Lancair 320- about 2 feet less span and 40% less surface
area on the stab and elevator? It would surely add some speed, but
would it have enough control landing?

Ed Gray, Dallas, speedster building

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: speed Reply with quote

Hey Ed,
How long have you been flying the Lancair? I love the thought of owning a Go Fast, my time has been spent in Kitfox’s 150’s and 172’s, I own a Bede 4 project I am working on, but have often distracted myself by drooled over the fast glass like Lancairs and Glasairs.

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Congrats, Lynn. I want to hear how you do at circles on a point in 30 mph wind! I can’t relate to 2 mph, since I just came from ABQ to Dallas at 260 (ground speed) in my Lancair 360. OK I admit I had a 35 mph tailwind. BUT. I am now covering the wings on My Mod 4 1200 Speedster, with aluminum skin on the upper leading surface. Expect to have my Viking engine in December and fly it next spring.

Question: has anyone found a good way to get the paper off the Skystar plastic windows after 18 years of storage? Second question: How would a Speedster handle with the horizontal tail from a Lancair 320- about 2 feet less span and 40% less surface area on the stab and elevator? It would surely add some speed, but would it have enough control landing?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: speed Reply with quote

Ed,
Interesting questions. I'll take a stab at the 320 tail. Many guys over the years have mentioned the lack of elevator authority in the flair. I suspect that will be where you will have the problem. I am curious about the aluminum leading edge and your experience installing. I did the same and found it was somewhat of a challenge. I am flying now and am interested in flight reports as this airplane is new to me, but very similar in most points the Model IV I previously owned, but different in others - stall characteristics for one.

Regarding removing the paper. It just takes time. One trick I did do was to cut a section of the plastic about 1X3 or 4 and sand the narrow end to a sharp edge much like a chisel and use that to start the new spots. It saves fingernails and didn't scratch the Lexan.
Lowell


From: Ed Gray (egraylaw(at)swbell.net)
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 9:36 AM
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Congrats, Lynn. I want to hear how you do at circles on a point in 30 mph wind! I can’t relate to 2 mph, since I just came from ABQ to Dallas at 260 (ground speed) in my Lancair 360. OK I admit I had a 35 mph tailwind. BUT. I am now covering the wings on My Mod 4 1200 Speedster, with aluminum skin on the upper leading surface. Expect to have my Viking engine in December and fly it next spring.

Question: has anyone found a good way to get the paper off the Skystar plastic windows after 18 years of storage? Second question: How would a Speedster handle with the horizontal tail from a Lancair 320- about 2 feet less span and 40% less surface area on the stab and elevator? It would surely add some speed, but would it have enough control landing?

Ed Gray, Dallas, speedster building
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