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Gtblu
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:12 pm Post subject: Radiator cleaning |
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Hi All,
I'm after some tips on how we clean oil cooler/ radiator fins of accumulated gunge ie fine coating of oil from oil change drips mixed with dust. Even though cooling is the least of my worries with these radiators, I would like them to be clean. If anything they struggle to reach a satisfactory working temperature despite being taped up over winter.
Thanks
Geoff Bell
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Roger Lee
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator cleaning |
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Hi Geoff,
Flush the fins with either a water based or a regular solvent. Then flush well with water to make sure here isn't any residual. Then I personally blow it out to help dry it and remove any residual with air pressure.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: Radiator cleaning |
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Geoff:
Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings.
As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a garden hose <-- High pressure helps.
Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done.
Barry
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Hi All,
I'm after some tips on how we clean oil cooler/ radiator fins of accumulated gunge ie fine coating of oil from oil change drips mixed with dust. Even though cooling is the least of my worries with these radiators, I would like them to be clean. If anything they struggle to reach a satisfactory working temperature despite being taped up over winter.
Thanks
Geoff Bell
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:28 am Post subject: Radiator cleaning |
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Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Geoff:
Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings.
As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a garden hose <-- High pressure helps.
Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done.
Barry
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator cleaning |
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Water based biodegradable "Oil Eater" is an excellent choice and works very well on greased clean ups including floors and greasy stove tops. Best non destructive stuff I have used.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: Radiator cleaning |
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Hi Richard:
Yea, I heard that one about Simple Green for aluminum.
It really makes me wonder. SOAP, well any soap that cleans is ALKALINE and alkaline will etch, attack or corrode aluminum... Use what ever of those words works best for you. Alkaline is used to clean aluminum before doing things like anodizing or painting. Yea, I know the term Acid Etch... Well it is only a term used to sell a product, for some reason the public understands ACID better than ALKALINE.
Any one out there have any litmus paper? Run your own test to prove what I am saying.
EPA! Kick them in the garage-keys. Then shoot them with the same arrow used to kill a deer. AHhhhh, New Jersey.... You can smell the dead deer alongside the road. E.P.A. - Extremely Prejudice Agency <--- Against Common Sense, they approved MTBE and Ethanol.
Barry
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[quote]Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Geoff:
Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings.
As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a garden hose <-- High pressure helps.
Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done.
Barry
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Hydrogen embrittlement. A number of solvents will cut hydrocarbons and clean metal. Know whether what you are using does damage before taking chances. Research the consequence of the wrong solvents.
Eight years ago Simple Green did not have an approved aluminum cleaner. Now they have one which will not cause embrittlement, swelling of tefzel insullation or galvanic action on the material you are trying to clean. Now there is a Simple Green Aviation Cleaner.
Sodium Hydroxide is an alkaline. Try a scrap piece before you destroy former aircraft grade parts. Know the MSDS. Heat and water can do some amazing stuff.
John
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:42 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hi Richard:
Yea, I heard that one about Simple Green for aluminum.
It really makes me wonder. SOAP, well any soap that cleans is ALKALINE and alkaline will etch, attack or corrode aluminum... Use what ever of those words works best for you. Alkaline is used to clean aluminum before doing things like anodizing or painting. Yea, I know the term Acid Etch... Well it is only a term used to sell a product, for some reason the public understands ACID better than ALKALINE.
Any one out there have any litmus paper? Run your own test to prove what I am saying.
EPA! Kick them in the garage-keys. Then shoot them with the same arrow used to kill a deer. AHhhhh, New Jersey.... You can smell the dead deer alongside the road. E.P.A. - Extremely Prejudice Agency <--- Against Common Sense, they approved MTBE and Ethanol.
Barry
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com (flyadive(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Geoff:
Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings.
As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a garden hose <-- High pressure helps.
Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done.
Barry
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Gtblu <gtbjbell(at)gmail.com (gtbjbell(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Gtblu
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator cleaning |
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Thanks guys for tips. I'm inclined to think the oil and dust is better than embrittlement. (Nice term! ) I'm not being compromised on the cooling process, so it is only cosmetic, and to see if there are leaks developing.
cheers
Geoff
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