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 Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 11/05/12 |
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From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations
Is there a chance that you or someone could offer up what would be a
good model of station to go with for someone who wants to do
general electronics/avionics work? I noted you said the STTC-147
tips. Just browsed eBay and saw there are many models.
I have 2 weller stations right now, and use the tiny point pencil
tips quite a bit. I don't really *need* a new station, but hey,
if they're as good as you say, I could be up for buying one.
I' probably get new though if possible.
Tim
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I've got a PS2E. Works very very well and was maybe $50 on ebay.
I've heard the cords are fragile, but I've never had a problem.
If you've used the standard cheap Weller or worse, you'll wonder what
the heck you were doing before. It certainly wasn't soldering.
Btw, after getting a ride in a RV6 at the factory years ago, the
pilot stopped in one of their front hangar rooms and showed part
of a 4 place plane being riveted. "We think we're going to call this
the RV10"
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Eric M. Jones
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Soldering Irons |
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Allan: | Quote: | I've got a PS2E. Works very very well and was maybe $50 on ebay. I've heard the cords are fragile, but I've never had a problem.
If you've used the standard cheap Weller or worse, you'll wonder what
the heck you were doing before. It certainly wasn't soldering. |
Well put. There are many people on the AeroElectric site that have vast experience with soldering. It is difficult to explain to anybody, not-already-converted, why changing to a Metcal will measurably improve their life, but over and over again you will read that changing to Metcal was (at least relatively) a life-changing experience. Nooooooooooooooooobody ever goes back. Nobody. Never.
It is also a common experience that new Metcal users are slightly pissed-off--that NOBODY forced them to upgrade earlier. This still has me miffed. Why did my more knowledgeable friends out there keep this secret from me?! Huh?
That should say something.
It is hard to come up with an analogous situation...after all it is just a tool. When somebody says something nice about their new temperature controlled Weller or Hakko or American Beauty...well, I think I'd give one to my grandson, but I'd tell him that he'd get a Metcal upgrade when he gets older and learns what it's all about.
It would be as hard to go back to a Weller as it would to return to a 300 baud modem. or a daisy-wheel printer, or an amber Amdek monitor or 5-1/4" sausage-hole floppy disks, or an IBM 4.77 MHz pc. Or AOL, or my Boy Scout flashlight with a filament lamp. Sure it can be used...but...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 11/05/12 |
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There are many people on the AeroElectric site that have vast experience with soldering. It is difficult to explain to anybody, not-already-converted, why changing to a Metcal will measurably improve their life, but over and over again you will read that changing to Metcal was (at least relatively) a life-changing experience. Nooooooooooooooooobody ever goes back. Nobody. Never.
It is also a common experience that new Metcal users are slightly pissed-off--that NOBODY forced them to upgrade earlier. This still has me miffed. Why did my more knowledgeable friends out there keep this secret from me?! Huh?
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Eric M. Jones
Am I to assume, after all the ranting, that you sorta like the Metcal and think that it is a bit better than others on the market??? ☺ ☺
Roger
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 11/05/12 |
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I, too, am one of the people who has his Metcal station up an a pedestal with motherhood and apple pie and I'd quit flying before giving it up, BUT, before anyone starts thinking that it is the solution to all the world's problems, there is one thing it still wont do. You can not use it to solder an IC in a BGA (ball grid array) package to a multilayer PCB.
Do not archive
Joe
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Eric M. Jones
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 11/05/12 |
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Joe,
| Quote: | | I, too, am one of the people who has his Metcal station up an a pedestal with motherhood and apple pie and I'd quit flying before giving it up, BUT, before anyone starts thinking that it is the solution to all the world's problems, there is one thing it still wont do. You can not use it to solder an IC in a BGA (ball grid array) package to a multilayer |
http://www.mectronics.in/metcal-bga-rework-system.htm
do not archive
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rv8iator(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 11/05/12 |
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Re. Metcal
You guys got my curiosity peeked... so I bid and won one on Ebay... $28 bucks. It just arrived and I took it up to the shop to try it out... Alas no tip. So I'll will see what I can find on ebay.
Question: Most of the soldering I do is wire splice and wire to connectors...Tefzel 18-24 ga. single and shielded. Only occasional PCB assembly and/or repair. Most being SMT now but some through hole. What tips would you recommend?
Chris Stone
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On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric M. Jones <emjones(at)charter.net (emjones(at)charter.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones(at)charter.net (emjones(at)charter.net)>
Joe,
> I, too, am one of the people who has his Metcal station up an a pedestal with motherhood and apple pie and I'd quit flying before giving it up, BUT, before anyone starts thinking that it is the solution to all the world's problems, there is one thing it still wont do. You can not use it to solder an IC in a BGA (ball grid array) package to a multilayer
PCB.http://www.mectronics.in/metcal-bga-rework-system.htm
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Southbridge, MA 01550
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