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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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 Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Morning Kolbers,
I dodged the bullet again, well, almost. I got grazed.
I keep my FlagFly hangared in a converted construction office trailer.
Unfortunately, the airstrip is on the top of a hill with pretty nasty
winds. When Sandy roared through she flipped my trailer 11/4
revolutions. The trailer is destroyed but amazingly the FlagFly
sustained minimal damage. Both the owner of the airstrip and I are
about done with trying to keep a trailer upright so it looks like we're
going to put the FF in the end of the hangar. It'll cost more (less in
the long run, I suppose), but it will take less time to set up, not
having to untie and set up ramps, etc.
The damage to the aircraft is a bend in the trailing edge of the left
elevator, a bend from the prop to the trailing edge of the left wing,
loosened aileron anti-flutter weights and one 1' and about 7 small tears
in the fabric. I'm a landscaper and an 18 wheeler jockey and don't feel
qualified to perform the repairs properly, so I'm looking for a builder
I can hire to repair the wings and elevator. I can load the parts on my
pickup and take them to the repair point so they won't have to travel.
If you are interested in the job or know of anyone who may be, please
contact me. I'll attach (if I'm successful) a few shots of the damaged
parts, and a couple of the trailer, which should leave you dumbfounded,
as it did me, that the FlagFly came through so well. When you open the
last two photos it may be difficult to tell where the actual wrinkles
are and what's been painted by Don G., but If you look for a few
moments you can make sense of it. Oh, and take a look at the wind sock...
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
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Don G
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Central Illinois
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Sandy!!!! |
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Dave...get the Flagfly stretched out and send me some detailed photos of all the damaged areas..lots of them.
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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You bet I will, Don!! If you go to the list you can see basic views, but I'll go up to the strip tomorrow afternoon and take more.
dK
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:23 PM, "Don G" <donghe(at)one-eleven.net> wrote:
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beauford173(at)tampabay.r
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Dave:
Sad to hear about your damage, but very pleased that she is
repairable. The pix of your trailer were
scary to see... especially since the Kleenex Fly sits in a similar
trailer close by the fickle and unpredictable
Gulf.
After viewing your trailer event, am tempted to go install more
hurricane anchors on mine.
Hang in there... I am pulling for your early recovery and return
to flight status.
The hangar option sounds good.
Do Not Archive
Beauford
FF - 076
Brandon, FL
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John Hauck
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Sad to hear about your damage, but very pleased that she is repairable.
Beauford
I echo Beauford's sentiments.
Never gave a storm a chance to damage any of my three Kolbs. Didn't have
to. I was able to total all three of them all by myself. 
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Dana
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:31 am Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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At 08:49 PM 11/12/2012, you wrote:
| Quote: | Morning Kolbers,
I dodged the bullet again, well, almost. I got grazed... |
Yikes! With the trailer in that shape it's hard to believe the plane wasn't totaled!
I was lucky. My trailer is also at a hilltop airport (coastal CT) but I was able to tuck it in between two hangars on the side sheltered from the predicted winds, and tie it down at a couple of points. No trouble at all, only damage at my airport was a couple of metal hangar roof panels ripped off.
-Dana
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Engineers?
A. Mechanical Engineers build weapons; Civil
Engineers build targets.
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:50 am Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Hi Dana,
The problem at Kessler Field is it's on a high point surrounded by mostly farmland. Very few trees locally to create a windbreak. Ground is too rocky to get any anchors in, but after it blew on its side last time I bought a 4 X 4 X 10, fed it between the leaf springs and frame and created an outrigger. I figured if it didn't get any momentum it wouldn't roll again. Wrong! Snapped the 4 X k4! Gonna go in half a hangar space now, which should end these calamities.
Mom used to tell me how hard she prayed for my safety, considering my lifestyle. I believe she's still pestering God about it. Two weeks prior to Sandy I was heading down to Quakertown for supper on my Beemer with my 100# black Lab in a trailer when a big buck jumped in front of me. I T-boned him at about 50 mph, when horizontal for almost 20', came down on my left side and slid for over 100'. Nothing but some road rash and 10,7K damage to the cycle. Trailer and Bubba stayed upright. So it's been quite a month!
dK
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| Quote: | Morning Kolbers,
I dodged the bullet again, well, almost. I got grazed... |
Yikes! With the trailer in that shape it's hard to believe the plane wasn't totaled!
I was lucky. My trailer is also at a hilltop airport (coastal CT) but I was able to tuck it in between two hangars on the side sheltered from the predicted winds, and tie it down at a couple of points. No trouble at all, only damage at my airport was a couple of metal hangar roof panels ripped off.
-Dana
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Engineers?
A. Mechanical Engineers build weapons; Civil
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Hope all your mishaps are over and you have a nice flight to the
homecoming, John. I'd like to be there, but I'm up to my eyeballs in
Sandy cleanup and repair. Maybe next year.
dK
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Sad to hear about your damage, but very pleased that she is repairable.
Beauford
I echo Beauford's sentiments.
Never gave a storm a chance to damage any of my three Kolbs. Didn't have
to. I was able to total all three of them all by myself.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Hi Beauford,
I can't get anchors into the rocky soil here, but I took a 4 X 4 X 10,
put it through the space between the leaf springs and frame and built an
outrigger I calculated would prevent it from getting started upsetting.
Snapped the 4 X 4!
My son is a construction super for KB Home Orlando Div. He told me that
when building up here the concerns are things like snow loads on the
roof, etc., but down there it's wind. Then he pointed out the total
surface area necessary to hold a half million pound airliner aloft and
to consider the surface area of the side of an 8 X 32' trailer and how
much force the wind would have on it. So anchor it good, Beauford!!
Best,
Dave Kulp
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On 11/12/2012 9:41 PM, Beauford wrote:
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Dave:
Sad to hear about your damage, but very pleased that she is
repairable. The pix of your trailer were
scary to see... especially since the Kleenex Fly sits in a similar
trailer close by the fickle and unpredictable
Gulf.
After viewing your trailer event, am tempted to go install more
hurricane anchors on mine.
Hang in there... I am pulling for your early recovery and return
to flight status.
The hangar option sounds good.
Do Not Archive
Beauford
FF - 076
Brandon, FL
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Brother Kulp...
No illusions about my chances if a goodly 'cane comes in here...
No real defense against Ma nature when she
rings your doorbell and peers in your front window. Your son is
precisely correct. Our feeble 4x4 efforts
are "snappable" indeed.
That said, I plan primarily for the average thunderstorm blow on
the airfield... Three steel mobile home straps with the
large auger anchors... plus four more directly under the ugly
trailer, secured with chassis chains. Worst 'cane case,
the top of the trailer and the Kolb will be shredded in the next
county someplace, but I will be able to sit on the still secured
bare trailer chassis and smoke a slightly soggy stogie... smugly
congratulating myself that the anchors held.
When one plants his bird-house on sand 18 feet above mean high
tide, as at 48X, one must expect that sooner or
later the Big Ranger is gonna crap in yer mess kit... it isn't a
matter of if... it is only a matter of when...
It's a fatalistic calculation... similar to matrimony. To live by
the Kolb trailer, is to blow away
with the Kolb trailer. By my calculations, the savings in hangar
rent will put me at break-even for a total loss
scenario in about six more years...but who's counting...
I am tickled that your Fly beat the odds.
Hope you get your pretty little machine back in the air again...
Soon...
Best Regards,
Beauford
FF-76
Brandon, FL
Do not archive.
Hi Beauford,
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Snapped the 4 X 4!
My son is a construction super for KB Home Orlando Div. He told
me that when building up here the concerns are things like snow
loads on the roof, etc., but down there it's wind. Then he
pointed out the total surface area necessary to hold a half
million pound airliner aloft and to consider the surface area of
the side of an 8 X 32' trailer and how much force the wind would
have on it. So anchor it good, Beauford!!
Dave Kulp
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: Sandy!!!! |
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Bro Beau,
Great narrative! I haven't laughed so hard in a month, I swear. I
could just imagine your smug grin with the stogie sitting on the trailer
frame.
As you alluded to, the body of our trailers are little more than a soda
can squared and, if you can tell in the photos I attached, the entire
weight of the frame was collapsing down upon my FlagFly and was held at
bay by the left landing gear. That's like David vs. Goliath! I loved
my little Fly before, now it's love enhanced by enormous amounts of
respect!!! Looking forward to spring.
My bets are on breaking the odds, not breaking even.
Best of luck,
Dave Kulp
Do not archive
On 11/15/2012 8:59 PM, Beauford wrote:
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Brother Kulp...
No illusions about my chances if a goodly 'cane comes in here...
No real defense against Ma nature when she
rings your doorbell and peers in your front window. Your son is
precisely correct. Our feeble 4x4 efforts
are "snappable" indeed.
That said, I plan primarily for the average thunderstorm blow on
the airfield... Three steel mobile home straps with the
large auger anchors... plus four more directly under the ugly
trailer, secured with chassis chains. Worst 'cane case,
the top of the trailer and the Kolb will be shredded in the next
county someplace, but I will be able to sit on the still secured
bare trailer chassis and smoke a slightly soggy stogie... smugly
congratulating myself that the anchors held.
When one plants his bird-house on sand 18 feet above mean high
tide, as at 48X, one must expect that sooner or
later the Big Ranger is gonna crap in yer mess kit... it isn't a
matter of if... it is only a matter of when...
It's a fatalistic calculation... similar to matrimony. To live by
the Kolb trailer, is to blow away
with the Kolb trailer. By my calculations, the savings in hangar
rent will put me at break-even for a total loss
scenario in about six more years...but who's counting...
I am tickled that your Fly beat the odds.
Hope you get your pretty little machine back in the air again...
Soon...
Best Regards,
Beauford
FF-76
Brandon, FL
Do not archive.
Hi Beauford,
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Snapped the 4 X 4!
My son is a construction super for KB Home Orlando Div. He told
me that when building up here the concerns are things like snow
loads on the roof, etc., but down there it's wind. Then he
pointed out the total surface area necessary to hold a half
million pound airliner aloft and to consider the surface area of
the side of an 8 X 32' trailer and how much force the wind would
have on it. So anchor it good, Beauford!!
Dave Kulp
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