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triumphrider

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the past 14 years. Incidentally, I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.



Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

briana(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

A number of us have had fuel smells in the cockpit in the past, due primarily to inexplicable percolation of stuff through rubber fuel hoses in the cockpit. This issue was discussed at length a few years ago both on the web group at at the gathering in Kansas.



If this is the problem that you have then a solution is to change the hoses out for teflon hoses. A number of us have done that successfully. Some years back I did a little power point presentation on the issue for the Kansas gathering. Happy to send you a copy if you would like.



Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 9:54 AM, triumphrider <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com> wrote:



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 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the past 14 years. Incidentally, I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

esalehto(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

Hi Brian,

Please share your presentation with all of us by posting it to Pulsar Yahoo group.

Esa,

Pulsar XP

Rotax 912 UL

        From: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz>

 To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:21 PM

 Subject: Re: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

   

 

 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>



A number of us have had fuel smells in the cockpit in the past, due primarily to inexplicable percolation of stuff through rubber fuel hoses in the cockpit. This issue was discussed at length a few years ago both on the web group at at the gathering in Kansas.



If this is the problem that you have then a solution is to change the hoses out for teflon hoses. A number of us have done that successfully. Some years back I did a little power point presentation on the issue for the Kansas gathering. Happy to send you a copy if you would like.



Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 9:54 AM, triumphrider <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



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 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the past 14 years. Incidentally,  I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

 

 

 

 

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331bp

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

If you have the original resistance fuel Level sending units, don't  forget to check the electrical connection terminal packing seal.  That fiber gasket/seal eventually dries out and leaks just enough to get wet and cause a smell. 

On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Esa Lehto <esalehto(at)yahoo.com (esalehto(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hi Brian,

Please share your presentation with all of us by posting it to Pulsar Yahoo group.

Esa,

Pulsar XP

Rotax 912 UL

        From: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>

 To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:21 PM

 Subject: Re: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

   

 

 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>



A number of us have had fuel smells in the cockpit in the past, due primarily to inexplicable percolation of stuff through rubber fuel hoses in the cockpit. This issue was discussed at length a few years ago both on the web group at at the gathering in Kansas.



If this is the problem that you have then a solution is to change the hoses out for teflon hoses. A number of us have done that successfully. Some years back I did a little power point presentation on the issue for the Kansas gathering. Happy to send you a copy if you would like.



Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 9:54 AM, triumphrider <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



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		   --> Pulsar-List  message posted by: "triumphrider" <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)>

 

 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the past 14 years. Incidentally,  I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

 

 

 

 

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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

After 14 years I would go along with Brian's theory of deteriating fuel 

hoses.



K'd

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briana(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

Hi Keith,



The issue we had was actually with new fuel hoses- - - gates and other brands of hose as well. Anyhow the teflon types immediately solved the problem.



Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 2:54 PM, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za> wrote:



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 After 14 years I would go along with Brian's theory of deteriating fuel hoses.

 

 K'd

 

 

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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

Brian ,

            I also go along with the brand problem - another problem I have 

experienced is swelling of hoses internally causeing a  restriction - this 

also applies to hydraulic hoses because of the high pressure with hydraulics 

it allows fluid through but doesn't allow the fluid to return when the 

brakes are released causeing drag & wear.



K'd



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briana(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

Esa,



I've just uploaded the file, called - - -  Fuel Smell.ppt

Brian



On 17/12/2012, at 2:05 PM, Esa Lehto <esalehto(at)yahoo.com (esalehto(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hi Brian,

Please share your presentation with all of us by posting it to Pulsar Yahoo group.

Esa,

Pulsar XP

Rotax 912 UL

        From: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>

 To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:21 PM

 Subject: Re: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

   

 

 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>



A number of us have had fuel smells in the cockpit in the past, due primarily to inexplicable percolation of stuff through rubber fuel hoses in the cockpit. This issue was discussed at length a few years ago both on the web group at at the gathering in Kansas.



If this is the problem that you have then a solution is to change the hoses out for teflon hoses. A number of us have done that successfully. Some years back I did a little power point presentation on the issue for the Kansas gathering. Happy to send you a copy if you would like.



Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 9:54 AM, triumphrider <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



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		   --> Pulsar-List  message posted by: "triumphrider" <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)>

 

 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the past 14 years. Incidentally,  I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

 

 

 

 

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esalehto(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

Thanks Brian! I read it, good information on the presentation.

-Esa

        From: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz>

 To:  pulsar-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:43 PM

 Subject: Re: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

 Esa,

I've just uploaded the file, called - - -  Fuel Smell.ppt

Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 2:05 PM, Esa Lehto <esalehto(at)yahoo.com (esalehto(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hi Brian,

Please share your presentation with all of us by posting it to Pulsar Yahoo  group.

Esa,

Pulsar XP

Rotax 912 UL

        From: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>

 To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:21 PM

 Subject: Re: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: Brian Anderson <briana(at)xtra.co.nz (briana(at)xtra.co.nz)>

A number of us have had fuel smells in the cockpit in the past, due primarily to inexplicable percolation of stuff through rubber fuel hoses in the cockpit. This issue was discussed at length a few years ago both on the web group at at the gathering in Kansas.

If this is the problem that you have then a solution is to change the hoses out for teflon hoses. A number of us have done that successfully. Some years back I did a little power point presentation on the issue for the Kansas gathering. Happy to send you a copy if you would like.

Brian

On 17/12/2012, at 9:54 AM, triumphrider <investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com (investmentsalesconsultant(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very light moisture that has become evident at the joint of the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over  the past 14 years. Incidentally,  I have not taken the wings off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed open the canopy! Ha!)

 Read this topic online here:

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: Strong Smelling Cockpit Remedy?

The rubber fuel lines uned in the Pulsar will cause the 

oder of gas when the cockpit is kept closed.  The only fix 

is to replace the lines with aircraft fuel lines.



Claeke



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wrote:

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 I have a Pulsar XP  (860 TT on 912UL 80 HP) and the 

cockpit has a distinct mechanical/ fuel smell. Nothing is 

leaking at the fuel line connectors to the fuel tank 

selection switch. However, I do have a wee bit of very 

light moisture that has become evident at the joint of 

the left wing to the fuselage-at the joint I have 1.5 

Inch  3M tape I've used to close the gap as gap tape and 

it's getting a little tacky on the underside. Can't tell 

if it's from the fuel tank check valve or at the joint of 

the wing. But, no fuel drips on the hanger floor ( I have 

a Carbon Monoxide alarm-so, the smell is not of exhaust 

or fumes. It just smells like the cotton fabric sound 

covering on the walls has taken a lot of smell over the 

past 14 years. Incidentally, I have not taken the wings 

off, nor did the previous owner. But, I think it's 

plausible that it's a fuel line connector.

 

 Any thoughts on this? Had a similar situation. Is a 

Glades Fresh Scent plug-in the answer?  (If It was my 

wife's plane it would smell like lavender when you pushed 

open the canopy! Ha!)

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390552#390552

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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