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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

[img]cid:1358694869461(at)dclient.mail.yahoo.com[/img] Hi,

I fly a firestar with a HKS engine, it uses the same pluse

pump as a 503 for the engine mounted pump with the elect

pump mounted between the tank and and the engine pump.

Do most of you that have that type system, leave the 

electric pump on all the time , or turn it off after takeoff?

 I have always left the electric pump on all the time--about 

200 flight hrs--. Lately I have been hearing that it may be 

better to turn it off after takeoff. Like to hear thoughts 

from anyone who uses this type sys.

Frank Goodnight

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:43 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

Frank,

 Lets not start with the silly pictures eh? Just  leave it to the under twelve year olds.

  

 Pat (Curmudgeon in UK)

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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

Pat,---          Don't what you are talking about. I have sent NO pictures to you or anyone else.

Please be sure of what you are talking about before flaming someone.

Thanks Frank 

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From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 10:44:04 AM

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          Frank,

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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:02 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

Frank,

 The pulse supply from the intake manifold on the HKS is weak.We have had lean condition at high cruise power settings with the pulse pump only.Their high dollar replacement pump is still less than ideal.Run the pump all the time.If it was mine,I'd have a second electric pump in line as well.I doubt they could get good signal even from the crankcase.It needs a cam driven pump like Rotax or Jabiru.A stout engine other than that.

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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

Thanks Gary,    I believe the same.

Frank

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From: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 11:02:45 AM

Subject: Re: electric fuel pump



 Frank,

 The pulse supply from the intake manifold on the HKS is weak.We have had lean condition at high cruise power settings with the pulse pump only.Their high dollar replacement pump is still less than ideal.Run the pump all the time.If it was mine,I'd have a second electric pump in line as well.I doubt they could get good signal even from the crankcase.It needs a cam driven pump like Rotax or Jabiru.A stout engine other than that.

      G.Aman  .

 

    

  

     

  

     

  

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: Re: electric fuel pump

Frank,

If you will log onto the Matronics website and see your post, you will see the silly cartoon that Pat was talking about. It is a .jpg file somewhere in your post. Look for it and perhaps you can get rid of it. 



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: electric fuel pump

If you will log onto the Matronics website and see your post, you will see

the silly cartoon that Pat was talking about. It is a .jpg file somewhere in

your post. Look for it and perhaps you can get rid of it. 



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Thom Riddle

Buffalo, NY (9G0)



 

Kolbers:



Do you all know Frank G?  He is a big, tough guy.  Spent a lot of time

living in the wilds of Alaska, not downtown Anchorage.



Frank has had that little cartoon character on his emails for as long as I

have known him, which has been a while now.  I have a feeling if he wanted

to get rid of it, he would have done so long ago.



There is a story behind the "character", but my memory fails me.  Someone

else, long ago on the Kolb List, tried to encourage Frank to get rid of his

character.  Seems they did not succeed.



A few years ago Frank almost made it to the Monument Valley Flyin in his

Firestar.  He made it from Brownsville, Texas (IIRC) to Window Rock,

Arizona, approximately 1,000 sm over some unfriendly terrain and extremely

high altitudes.  Frank was about 100 sm from Monument Valley when he decided

it best he cancel out the rest of the flight and continue by road.  I said

earlier, Frank is a very big man who discovered the little Firestar powered

with the HKS did not have enough grunt to get him over the mountains safely,

and Frank might need more training and experience flying in the high

altitudes and extreme winds of the Rockies.



All this chatter of Frank's cartoon character probably should not have come

to the Kolb List, but sent bc to Frank if it was all that important.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: Re: electric fuel pump

If Frank likes his cartoon character, then he should be proud of it, not deny its existence. I was just backing Pat's statement that it existed in Frank's post, an unassailable truth.



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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: electric fuel pump

At 11:52 AM 1/20/2013, frank goodnight wrote:

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		   Pat,---          Don't what you are talking about. I have sent NO pictures to you or anyone else.

 Please be sure of what you are talking about before flaming  someone.

 Thanks Frank 



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 Frank, it's a picture of a cartoon character blowing heart shaped bubbles, and it's in every post you send to the list.  Has been for a long time.



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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: electric fuel pump

John and I have been trying to find "Stationary" like that but so far have not been successful. I will keep trying.Larry



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		    At 11:52 AM 1/20/2013, frank goodnight wrote:

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		   Pat,---          Don't what you are talking about. I have sent NO pictures to you or anyone else.

 Please be sure of what you are talking about before flaming  someone.

 Thanks Frank 



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 Frank, it's a picture of a cartoon character blowing heart shaped bubbles, and it's in every post you send to the list.  Has been for a long time.



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