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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
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 Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: FireFly Nose Over on Landing |
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At 02:00 PM 6/8/06 -0700, you wrote:
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I'm not a master of picture file reducing. I'm a very considerate airplane loving guy that just got on this kolb thing "8 day's ago" to learn things about the KOLB Firefly.
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The nose over on landing thing, anyone out there had this happened to them? I want to hear on a 1 to 10 scale how easy does this happen in you're opinion. How do you land wheel or 3 point?
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Rob,
I have put my FireFly into a bean and corn field, and I have landed it in
tall grass with a couple inches of water on the ground. In all cases, I
tried to three point it and it gave no indication of wanting to go on its
nose. Before I moved the flaperon control to the left side, I did not use
the flaperons, so the tail wheel hit first. With five degrees of flaperon
my FireFly will three point. I am using the four inch plastic wheels. I
always three point the FireFly so that I am in practice to touch down at the
lowest possible speed.
I have put it on its nose three times on grass. The first nose over was
during the first take off from grass. I was used to hard surface take offs
and I was too heavy on the throttle. I was too slow in recognizing what was
going on and did not get the throttle back in time. I never let the tail
come up. I hold the stick back against the stop. I slowly advance the
throttle. On take off from grass and with the stick back against the stop,
if the tail starts to come up you are on your way to a nose over. Be timid
with the throttle and nurse it up into ground effect, let the stick go
forward to get up to a reasonable flight speed and then aggressively advance
the throttle.
The other two nose overs were from trying to taxi through tall wet grass
over soft ground. With the four inch wheels you can't do it. It is best to
shut down, get out and hand man handle the FireFly to where ever you want to
go.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Blumax008(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: FireFly Nose Over on Landing |
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Rob...
Wanted to add this to the excellent reply by Mr. Hart...
If a nose over happens to you, be careful & deliberate getting out of the cockpit. Slowly ease your way out while applying downward pressure to the cockpit frame with you body, hands or both. This will prevent the tail from banging into the ground as you get out & possibly damaging your tailwheel.
I had it happen to me once in soft sand. No problem, just a little sand in the nose pitot.
Bill
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WillUribe(at)AOL.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: FireFly Nose Over on Landing |
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Hi Rob,
The only thing that takes a hit when you nose over a Kolb is your pride but if you nose over a Challenger your wallet also takes a hit.
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This happened this morning.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:12 AM
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Subject: Re: FireFly Nose Over on Landing
Rob...
Wanted to add this to the excellent reply by Mr. Hart...
If a nose over happens to you, be careful & deliberate getting out of the cockpit. Slowly ease your way out while applying downward pressure to the cockpit frame with you body, hands or both. This will prevent the tail from banging into the ground as you get out & possibly damaging your tailwheel.
I had it happen to me once in soft sand. No problem, just a little sand in the nose pitot.
Bill
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wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: FireFly Nose Over on Landing |
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OUCH !!!!
do not archive
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