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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
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I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote:[quote] I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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| Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: Airport Tower Closures |
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Like you I call and write, and I encourage others to do the same. True, the President doesn't write legislation, but he surely directs policy and signs legislation that he likes. My country is in deep trouble and I see no progress in fixing that. I will survive (for a long time, hopefully) but I fear for my children and my grandkids future. There's no doubt the basic problems lie in the legislators that cater to their constituents because their jobs are on the line every four years. The voters spoke, and I think we will suffer for it. As for the golf .... it's just what I see.
Linn ..... last call.
On 3/24/2013 9:08 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote: | Quote: | I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Ok, enough politics.... but the sequestration was the presidents idea.
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
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Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 8:08 AM
The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <[url=/mc/compose?to=flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com]flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is our military big enough yet?
It may be large enough, and it can be more efficient. But that is not the sequestration question. The question is who is responsible for the mess we are in today. I don’t think you should waste your time calling your congress person…..call you senators, they are the ones not taking action. The house has passed many bills….the senate just will not take them up.
But to get back to flying…..flew from Idaho Falls Id to Ogden Utah yesterday. The guys up in Idaho Falls were all upset about losing their tower and worried that it really will affect their business. Here at Ogden it is a mixed bag about losing the tower….of the people I have talked to it is about 50/50. I am on the I don’t care list…I care about the people losing their job, but I don’t care about not having a tower. Our bigger problem at Ogden is that we now have commercial service (2 days a week) and the TSA has come in and I would say with the City’s overwhelming cooperation and made life at the airport a pain, to say the least. The airport is now divided in half, fly in to the local dinner (the Auger Inn), is almost impossible and doing things like Young Eagle rally’s are almost impossible. Out local EAA chapter has lost it meeting location to boot.
Well I will stop whining and get back to work so I can get to the airport later today to work on my annual condition inspect and yearly modes…..this year……replacing BMA Lite with a third GRT screen, handles for the seats, new headset hangers, putting on door straps, and adding piper battery charging connector.
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The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS
On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote:
I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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WHAT SEQUESTER? FEDERAL JOBS WEBSITE LISTS THOUSANDS OF OPENINGS! I am relocating to Dayton to take the job as director for the Air Force History and Museums Policies and Programs. All that I need to do is issue memos promoting gay marriage, muslim rights, legalization of pot, and watch porn on my computer all day!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/23/USA-Jobs-postings-thousands
For all the talk about the dramatic spending cuts to hit the federal government under the bipartisan sequestration, the federal government isn’t exactly tightening its belt. According to USAJobs.gov, the job posting site for the feds, approximately 2,200 jobs listings became available during one week in March. As Eileen Ambrose reports, “Add in new postings open only to current or former federal workers, including those laid off, and the number of new openings jumps to more than 4,600.â€
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It doesn't matter WHOSE idea it was. Might as well have been Donald Ducks, or Farmer McDonald. Both houses of Congress passed it, the President signed, and both Houses of Congress failed to carryout the mandates in the bill, which left us stuck with the stupidquester.
Doesn't matter what party, who did what, it took the whole "team" to fail. It took the "team" unwillingness to pay the bills for the spending "they" approved.
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You said the magic word there Rene'....TSA. If we really want
to save some money, and we're willing to reduce safety by
a little bit, I'd rather see towers stay open, but chop the
TSA down to a small fraction of what it is. That's one of the
biggest waste of cash I've seen.
Regarding flying, I've been finding out this week that if you
can build an RV....any RV....you can install your own bifold
hangar door. I got a new-to-me hangar last fall, that is
front/back connected with my existing T hangar. It had a
dangerous and rotten door on it though. I ended up buying a
brand new Schweiss strap-lift style bifold. I got it
delivered around noon on Thursday, and had it hung by 3pm
by 2 bolts. I did have a friend stop out and help, but I
could have done it alone, since I rented a forklift.
The next day I had it all bolted in and operating, with the
only help being the wife, to hold the bolts from turning so I
could torque them. Then yesterday I had to go back and get
a couple guys to help put the steel siding on, since the
sheets are 40' long and weigh over 100lbs. but I only needed
help for 3 hours. It's been a fun but tiring adventure,
and it saved me over $2500 for installation cost.
I just love a D-I-Y project.
Back to government, and D-I-Y.....don't you think that if
we RV guys just ran that city, we could do 100% better. 
I wonder if there is a book "Running the worlds largest
economical and military powerhouse for dummies".
It's sufficient to say that it don't matter what party is in
place, that whole situation is <blanked> up. Doesn't matter
who wins the next election, either....it's still gonna be
<blanked> up. Frustrating. I'm just glad that I've got
a fun RV-10 to fly, and plenty of places to fly it to.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 3/24/2013 9:46 AM, Rene wrote:
| Quote: | FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide?
Is our military big enough yet?
It may be large enough, and it can be more efficient. But that is not
the sequestration question. The question is who is responsible for the
mess we are in today. I don’t think you should waste your time calling
your congress person…..call you senators, they are the ones not taking
action. The house has passed many bills….the senate just will not take
them up.
But to get back to flying…..flew from Idaho Falls Id to Ogden Utah
yesterday. The guys up in Idaho Falls were all upset about losing their
tower and worried that it really will affect their business. Here at
Ogden it is a mixed bag about losing the tower….of the people I have
talked to it is about 50/50. I am on the I don’t care list…I care about
the people losing their job, but I don’t care about not having a tower.
Our bigger problem at Ogden is that we now have commercial service (2
days a week) and the TSA has come in and I would say with the City’s
overwhelming cooperation and made life at the airport a pain, to say the
least. The airport is now divided in half, fly in to the local dinner
(the Auger Inn), is almost impossible and doing things like Young Eagle
rally’s are almost impossible. Out local EAA chapter has lost it
meeting location to boot.
Well I will stop whining and get back to work so I can get to the
airport later today to work on my annual condition inspect and yearly
modes…..this year……replacing BMA Lite with a third GRT screen, handles
for the seats, new headset hangers, putting on door straps, and adding
piper battery charging connector.
Rene’
N423CF
801-721-6080
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*Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:08 AM
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The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The
president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only
congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion
that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care
about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their
pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have
to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman
that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many
things could be passed if they stop playing political games and
pandering to the extremes of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name
(Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers.
They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them.
If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue
the country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide?
Is our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS
On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
<mailto:flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a
disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came.
So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't
care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play
golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and
needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition.
That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room
keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the
towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the
civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get
past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing
towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous
chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in
income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able
to run in the black from the funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is
closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes,
and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't
find a job In another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are
getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut
as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family
budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play
games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to
continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable
way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be
lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly
an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top
dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they
continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job?
Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or
they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision making. The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the house refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president would sign. It is fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senate and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change to appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains and they don't want to do anything that would make the current president look good. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get past their own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for everyone.
I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight into a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate department escapes me.
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Hey mister DDS.... what about the first FUC----- two years of this assholes term when they had control of both the Senate and the House... still no damn budget. Why do you think Bush's last 2 years were so bad! They controlled both houses then tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What could you possibly add to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty hard to blame that on the Republicans.
Gee come to think of it, California, which I left 3 years ago, after 59 years, now has a Democratic super majority. According to you they should be doing just splendid! NOT!
DDR, SAS, PBW , just kidding about the initials,,,, I'm just a plain ole citizen...don't see the need to flash credentials around.
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From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds(at)gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Airport Tower Closures
To: "RV10 List" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision making. The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the house refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president would sign. It is fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senate and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change to appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains and they don't want to do anything that would make the current president look good. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get past their own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for everyone.
I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight into a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate department escapes me.
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Hey Don,
There is no constitutional requirement for a budget, period. If you
did a quick word search in the constitution, you won't find the word
budget. Who gives a damn? It is appropriations bills that matter,
which the House refuses to pass any that are even close to acceptable.
How about just finding a way to do something instead of being
roadblocks?
Now. Back to building RVs and to hell with politicians of all stripes.
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Hey mister DDS.... what about the first FUC----- two years of this assholes term when they had control of both the Senate and the House... still no damn budget. Why do you think Bush's last 2 years were so bad! They controlled both houses then tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What could you possibly add to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty hard to blame that on the Republicans.
Gee come to think of it, California, which I left 3 years ago, after 59 years, now has a Democratic super majority. According to you they should be doing just splendid! NOT!
DDR, SAS, PBW , just kidding about the initials,,,, I'm just a plain ole citizen...don't see the need to flash credentials around.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 3/24/13, Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds(at)gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Airport Tower Closures
To: "RV10 List" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision making. The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the house refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president would sign. It is fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senate and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change to appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains and they don't want to do anything that would make the current president look good. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get past their own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for everyone.
I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight into a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate department escapes me.
Stephen Blank, DDS
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My last two cents... I find it funny that the Dems say that the Rep's are restricting a certain process... then when it's pointed out that when Dems had complete control, and still didn't get anything done, then the statement changes to It's not required. I think they call that bait and switch
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At no time did either party have full control. It would take more than
60 votes in Senate to be even close, since a single obstinate Senator
can hold up most anything. We also do not have a system where leaders
can tell a Congressman how to vote. Sure they can be strong armed,
lobbied, attacked in next election, but none of the leaders, majority
nor minority can consistently deliver 100% of their caucus. Look at all
the trouble Boehner has had, making deals that his caucus refuses to
support, forcing him to back out of deals. Trying to control Congress is
like trying to herd a cat.
I know of slow build RV-10 built in 12 months, by solo builder without
assist. Not what I would want, but suits the owner. We all make our own
choices and have our own limitations on how fast we can build, and it
has nothing to do with politicians.
On 3/24/2013 8:24 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
| Quote: | My last two cents... I find it funny that the Dems say that the Rep's
are restricting a certain process... then when it's pointed out that
when Dems had complete control, and still didn't get anything done,
then the statement changes to It's not required. I think they call
that bait and switch.
Kelly, we can still be friends.... but my planes been done for 3
years.... get back to building before 100LL gets to $10 gal.
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From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Airport Tower Closures
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 9:59 PM
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Hey Don,
There is no constitutional requirement for a budget, period. If you
did a quick word search in the constitution, you won't find the word
budget. Who gives a damn? It is appropriations bills that matter,
which the House refuses to pass any that are even close to acceptable.
How about just finding a way to do something instead of being
roadblocks?
Now. Back to building RVs and to hell with politicians of all stripes.
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CUT OUT THE POLITICAL CRAP!!!
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On 3/24/2013 8:34 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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I am curious to see what the build-time record will be on the RV-14.
Sounds like an easy build: final punched holes (do they even need to
debur?), complete plans, complete wiring kit, complete avionics modules,
ready to install baffling, ready to install transparencies, etc. etc. etc.
Jae
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