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 Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:52 am Post subject: Unorthodox Tire Balancing with beads |
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Gary, Here is the web site for the beads and explians what they do and how it works. You can always type in Google, Ceramic Beads for tire balancing, and numerous items pop up. I used 1 oz per tire as, they suggested 2 oz for my front motor cycle tire, so since our tire or only used during taxi, takeoff and landings, and a heck of alot smaller, figured 1 oz would be fine, and so far so good. I am attaching a web site and a link to whee to by the kit. Also remember when installing the beads to have the value stem anywhere from 10 to 2 oclock position so when they are inserted in the value stem they fall to the bottom of the tire, once all in, screw in the new value stem and add air to the tires. They have ceramic and stainless steel beads. I use the ceramic.
Gary
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.php
This is the kit with everything.....
http://www.amazon.com/Counteract-Motorcycle-Internal-Balancing-Beads/dp/B008BTN83S/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1364485739&sr=1-1&keywords=balancing+beads
From: barnett6088(at)msn.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:25:34 -0700
Gary
Where do you buy the beads? I assume they are small enough to fit through the valve stem. Thanks for the idea. Gary B. gbsss(at)bendbroadband.com (gbsss(at)bendbroadband.com)
From: winky53(at)hotmail.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:39 +0000
Lightning All, I have used ceramic beads to balance a tires. I was told about these the last time I put new tires on my motorcycle. I run a KUMO run flat care tire on the rear of my Honda Goldwing with 3 ounces of beads and 2 ounces of beads in the front and the ride is great. No matter what speed I am traveling the beads will move within the tire to balance it.
I decided to added 1 ounce of ceramic beads inside each tube on my rear Lightning tires and have found they run great. With the cost of tires I run retreads, and they balance perfect no matter what speed I appy to them. Ceramic beads are used on 18 wheelers and car tires for a long time. As a tire wears, the balance changes and with stick on weights or rim weights the lead never moves and tires will get out of balance after some mileage. The ceramic beads always are moving and can be reused. Just some other food for thought.
Gary
Lightning N428GW
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:25:43 -0700
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Two points:
First, this idea came from an old R/C prop balancer I had. It was like the magnetic balancer, but was just a shaft, two tapered cones, and the shaft had pointed ends. You just held it very lightly between your fingers. When I saw the magnetic balancer, I adapted that $3 balancer to a magnetic version with some old hard drive magnets and a 2X4. Worked perfectly.
This version obviously requires much larger magnets.  Same idea though. As to prop balancing, no need to bother with a static balance. I have a dnya-vibe and hook that up and run the wires through the heater butterfly box into the cabin so I can take readings at cruise speed and then balance for that specific RPM. When I get it just right, you can tell the increase in vibration on either side of 2850. At that specific RPM it's like glass.
I posted another video with some more detail if anyone wants to recreate my balancer setup. http://youtu.be/53mUcjocNUQ
If you're near DFW, drop by F69 if you want to borrow it.
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Gary
Thanks for the information. I will give it a try. Gary
From: winky53(at)hotmail.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing with beads
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:50:58 +0000
Gary, Here is the web site for the beads and explians what they do and how it works. You can always type in Google, Ceramic Beads for tire balancing, and numerous items pop up. I used 1 oz per tire as, they suggested 2 oz for my front motor cycle tire, so since our tire or only used during taxi, takeoff and landings, and a heck of alot smaller, figured 1 oz would be fine, and so far so good. I am attaching a web site and a link to whee to by the kit. Also remember when installing the beads to have the value stem anywhere from 10 to 2 oclock position so when they are inserted in the value stem they fall to the bottom of the tire, once all in, screw in the new value stem and add air to the tires. They have ceramic and stainless steel beads. I use the ceramic.
Gary
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.php
This is the kit with everything.....
http://www.amazon.com/Counteract-Motorcycle-Internal-Balancing-Beads/dp/B008BTN83S/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1364485739&sr=1-1&keywords=balancing+beads
From: barnett6088(at)msn.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:25:34 -0700
Gary
Where do you buy the beads? I assume they are small enough to fit through the valve stem. Thanks for the idea. Gary B. gbsss(at)bendbroadband.com (gbsss(at)bendbroadband.com)
From: winky53(at)hotmail.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:39 +0000
Lightning All, I have used ceramic beads to balance a tires. I was told about these the last time I put new tires on my motorcycle. I run a KUMO run flat care tire on the rear of my Honda Goldwing with 3 ounces of beads and 2 ounces of beads in the front and the ride is great. No matter what speed I am traveling the beads will move within the tire to balance it.
I decided to added 1 ounce of ceramic beads inside each tube on my rear Lightning tires and have found they run great. With the cost of tires I run retreads, and they balance perfect no matter what speed I appy to them. Ceramic beads are used on 18 wheelers and car tires for a long time. As a tire wears, the balance changes and with stick on weights or rim weights the lead never moves and tires will get out of balance after some mileage. The ceramic beads always are moving and can be reused. Just some other food for thought.
Gary
Lightning N428GW
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From: bill(at)gdsx.com
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:25:43 -0700
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Bill Strahan" <bill(at)gdsx.com>
Two points:
First, this idea came from an old R/C prop balancer I had. It was like the magnetic balancer, but was just a shaft, two tapered cones, and the shaft had pointed ends. You just held it very lightly between your fingers. When I saw the magnetic balancer, I adapted that $3 balancer to a magnetic version with some old hard drive magnets and a 2X4. Worked perfectly.
This version obviously requires much larger magnets. Same idea though. As to prop balancing, no need to bother with a static balance. I have a dnya-vibe and hook that up and run the wires through the heater butterfly box into the cabin so I can take readings at cruise speed and then balance for that specific RPM. When I get it just right, you can tell the increase in vibration on either side of 2850. At that specific RPM it's like glass.
I posted another video with some more detail if anyone wants to recreate my balancer setup. http://youtu.be/53mUcjocNUQ
If you're near DFW, drop by F69 if you want to borrow it.
Read this topic online here:
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