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john-ranger
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 Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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I have not been on this forum for a couple of years. I had a FSII. I have been interested in the Kolbra since I ran into John Williamson some years back at the Jean Airport in Las Vegas. I just about purchased his aircraft. I ended up buying a Aeronca Champ (83406) was the tail number. Had that for a number of years before selling it. I have been on the shade hangar list at Henderson Executive Airport for 6 years. My number is up and I have no plane. Sorry about the long winded prolog...my question is about room in the back of the Kolbra. My Champ was pretty comfortable with two 210 pounders in the seats. I know we were slightly over gross. Anyone out there that has a couple of lugs of around 200lbs each, flying the Kolbra? If so, would like any feedback. My preference is for a tandem aircraft. I'm thinking of either another Champ or perhaps a Kolbra. Whatever I get will be a complete aircraft. I really do have the space to build my own.
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lcottrell
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Location: Jordan Valley, Or
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:16 pm Post subject: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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I rode back seat with John W in his Kolbra and other than having him scare the crap out of me I don't remember any serious discomfort. I weighed at least 230 at the time. We yanked and banked over the rolling terrain and I had the feeling that he was remembering what it was like to fly a "chopper" in Nam. It was a blast! Larry
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I have not been on this forum for a couple of years. I had a FSII. I have been interested in the Kolbra since I ran into John Williamson some years back at the Jean Airport in Las Vegas. I just about purchased his aircraft. I ended up buying a Aeronca Champ (83406) was the tail number. Had that for a number of years before selling it. I have been on the shade hangar list at Henderson Executive Airport for 6 years. My number is up and I have no plane. Sorry about the long winded prolog...my question is about room in the back of the Kolbra. My Champ was pretty comfortable with two 210 pounders in the seats. I know we were slightly over gross. Anyone out there that has a couple of lugs of around 200lbs each, flying the Kolbra? If so, would like any feedback. My preference is for a tandem aircraft. I'm thinking of either another Champ or perhaps a Kolbra. Whatever I get will be a complete aircraft. I really do have the space to build my own.
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Ralph B
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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I gave a ride to this fellow and I estimate his weight at about 230lbs. He is over 6' and this was with the 912 80hp engine. I now have a 912 100hp and it would have given me a shorter takeoff roll and better climb. As it was, it seemed like forever getting to 1000', but we cruised around for awhile and I came in hot for a smooth landing. He was impressed with the Kolbra and I was happy to have given him a ride. I also gave Dennis Thate, on this list, a ride during our hanger party last fall. He might comment on his ride.
There have been many others that I have given rides to. If you saw my last video of the flight to Lake Mille Lacs, I ride with my wife on most flights and she carries a little with her too (I'm trying to be nice so I don't offend her if she reads this). When we go on long distance flights, there isn't much room to carry anything except tiedowns, a small softsided cooler, and jackets. If I fly solo, then I can carry a tent, sleeping bag, air mattress and pump, tiedowns, extra fuel tank, and a personal bag.
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Dennis Thate
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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At 220 pounds , I recall it being a bit of a tight fit... but once situated it was a comfortable flight experience. I would like to own a tandem seat Kolbra myself, but I would get a backseat test flight before you lay down your money.
Cheers !
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tkben002
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Posts: 54
Location: Alexandria, LA
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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I have never flown in the back of the Kolbra, because I always fly from the front....but, I have flown my brother at 205# on a few occasions without any complaints.
Now the downside, unless you are planning on building one, good luck finding one for sale, there were only 28 kits sold according to Travis at Kolb and I know not all of them are even flying. ( I may part with mine in the not to distant future).
Travis Bennett
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sparky60
Joined: 02 May 2011
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Location: Nebraska
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Kolbra tandem seating - size question |
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If you are looking for a Kolbra, I have one for sale in Nebraska. Any questions, let me know. You can email me at gittlj(at)q.com Larry[/b]
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