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nickc(at)mtaonline.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:36 am Post subject: mounting hinges

Hello Kolbers,

 

I have built my wings, horizontal stabilizers, and vertical stabilizer. Now I need to mount my hinges…I remember someone split each hinges into thirds and mounted the hinge on both sides of the center line, on the trailing edge tube, rather than having the hinge mounted all on one side. This seems like a good idea to me, but I cannot find the “posts” in the Archives. I would be grateful if anyone has thoughts on the pro’s or con’s of this approach.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick Cassara

Palmer, Alaska

 

N607AK Kolbra #1

 

 

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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:51 am Post subject: Re: mounting hinges

"nickc(at)mtaonline.net" 	  Quote: 	
		  Hello Kolbers,

 

I have built my wings, horizontal stabilizers, and vertical stabilizer. Now I need to mount my hingesâ€¦I remember someone split each hinges into thirds and mounted the hinge on both sides of the center line, on the trailing edge tube, rather than having the hinge mounted all on one side. This seems like a good idea to me, but I cannot find the â€œpostsâ€ in the Archives. I would be grateful if anyone has thoughts on the proâ€™s or conâ€™s of this approach.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick Cassara

Palmer, Alaska

 

N607AK Kolbra #1 	




Nick, my Kolbra was built according to plan and the hinges were not split.



Ralph

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Ralph B

Kolb Kolbra 912uls
N20386
550 hours

byoungplumbing(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: mounting hinges

I went into the search engine and did a search on â€œx hingesâ€    found this    http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Xhingestrailingedge.jpg      and     http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/HINGESML.jpg       if you do the search, you may find more.     as I  remember,  you have to cut out every other spot on each hinges that the  wire  hinge pin goes through.  I have no experience to determine if it  is a good idea or not.  hope this is what you are looking for.

  

 boyd young

    

  From: Nick Cassara (nickc(at)mtaonline.net) 

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Hello Kolbers, 

  

I have built my wings, horizontal stabilizers, and vertical  stabilizer. Now I need to mount my hingesâ€¦I remember someone split each hinges  into thirds and mounted the hinge on both sides of the center line, on the  trailing edge tube, rather than having the hinge mounted all on one side. This  seems like a good idea to me, but I cannot find the â€œpostsâ€ in the Archives. I  would be grateful if anyone has thoughts on the proâ€™s or conâ€™s of this  approach. 

  

Thanks, 

  

Nick Cassara 

Palmer, Alaska 

  

N607AK Kolbra #1 

  

 

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Carolina Flyer

Joined: 03 Oct 2010
Posts: 62
Location: Buffalo, South Carolina

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:12 am Post subject: Re: mounting hinges

Nick, 

Here is a Picture of the X-Hinge I am using on my Firestar II.  I do not know if these can be bought but they are very easy to make. It takes twice as much hinge to make these. Some people think less is better, but I think I need to make things as good as I can if my life is depending on it. This is by far stronger, and maybe even over-kill but I will bet this set-up is less likely to fail. 

Best Regards     Joe

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:45 am Post subject: Re: mounting hinges

You can also split them this way:

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:16 am Post subject: mounting hinges

Ref x hinges.



See if I can figure this out.



Cut half the loops off the hinge resulting in a stronger hinge?



Lot of work compared using the whole hinge.



There is no problem with current hinges or Kolb method of attachment.



Johnh

MkIII

Lakeland, FL

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John Hauck
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hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

John Hauck

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:36 am Post subject: mounting hinges

I erred I my previous post.  Didn't realize it took twice as much hinge for x hinge.

John h

MkIII

Lakeland, FL

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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:05 am Post subject: Re: mounting hinges

Using the full hinge mount per plan lasts a long time as my Firestar is built that way and has 1000 hrs. Also, I removed the book-binding tape between the aileron and wing and didn't notice one bit of difference in banking the Kolbra.



John H: you can use the "edit" button to the right when making corrections in your posts. There is no need to write another post. It will make the changes in your original post. I may have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.



Ralph

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Ralph B

Kolb Kolbra 912uls
N20386
550 hours

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:34 pm Post subject: mounting hinges

On 04/10/2013 09:05 AM, Ralph B wrote:

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 Using the full hinge mount per plan lasts a long time as my Firestar is built that way and has 1000 hrs. Also, I removed the book-binding tape between the aileron and wing and didn't notice one bit of difference in banking the Kolbra.



 John H: you can use the "edit" button to the right when making corrections in your posts. There is no need to write another post. It will make the changes in your original post. I may have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.



 Ralph



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 Ralph B

 Original Firestar 447

 N91493 E-AB

 1000+ hours

 26 years flying it



 Kolbra 912ULS

 N20386

 200 hours



I don't know which method John uses, but if he's using email (I do), 
	


posts can't be edited after sending.



Charlie

Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: mounting hinges

"ceengland7(at)gmail.com" 	  Quote: 	
		  

I don't know which method John uses, but if he's using email (I do), 



posts can't be edited after sending.



Charlie 	




The editing can be changed after sending if you are posting on the matronics.com forum. If you are doing it by email, then it can't be edited after sending. Thanks for pointing that out.



Ralph B

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: mounting hinges

At 08:55 PM 4/16/2013, Ralph B wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  The editing can be changed after sending if you are posting on the matronics.com forum. If you are doing it by email, then it can't be edited after sending. Thanks for pointing that out. 	


 Note too that those of us who receive the posts by email will only get the original unedited version...



 Dana

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