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Hi there,
I can't find anywhere the required tire pressure for the main and nose wheel tire. What PSI are you using?
Mike
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I put 50 in all tires. That's more than vans states.
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This has been a subject for discussion several times.... 10er's are using anywhere between 35 and 60 psi... with most probably in the 40 to 45 range. I've used as high as 50 (especially when flying into grass strips) and have seen no downside effects.
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I can't find anywhere the required tire pressure for the main and nose wheel tire. What PSI are you using?
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Thanks that what I was looking for?
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I was using 45 main and 40 front until I switched to Desser retreads. Â Then the plane got REALLY hard to pull out of the hangar. Â Checked brgs, brakes, etc. Â I finally upped the pressures to 60/50 and it's good as new.
Dave Saylor
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Dave, I had a visit from Jim Rore out of Stockton.... and I had moved my 10 to a friends hangar, and when Jim showed up I pulled his plane in.... ABSOLUTELY couldn't believe how easy it was... keep in mind, I've been moving mine in and out for 2 years. I asked him about it, and his response made perfect sense, he carries (IIRC) 60 psi.... and has for a long time... 5 or 6 years now. That's when I bumped my pressure up a bit.
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Subject: Re: What's the nose and main wheels required tire pressure?
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Date: Monday, April 22, 2013, 2:26 PM
I was using 45 main and 40 front until I switched to Desser retreads. Then the plane got REALLY hard to pull out of the hangar. Checked brgs, brakes, etc. I finally upped the pressures to 60/50 and it's good as new.
Dave Saylor
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I find this thread interesting. When I was a baby pilot I had a good mentor .... for almost everything involving aviation. He said to fill the tire until the outside rib just lifts off the ground. "Pounds don't work well because a wide range of airplane weights use the same size tire." Made sense to me so that's what I do. I get pretty even tire wear. Of course we're talking RVs here and there is noo such thing as even tire wear on the mains!!!
Have wheel pants? Get tubes with a 90 degree stem and drill a hole on the wheel pant where the stem points. Go to a truck tire store and get a couple of straight truck tire extensions. When you have the stem at the right point paint a white line on the inside of the tire so when you pull the airplane forward you can spot the white line and the tire should be in the right position for filling. Find a plastic plug to fit the hole (or is it the other way around) and your tire filling nightmares go away.
Now, question: When you fill the tire to 60 Lbs, which rib is off the ground?
Linn
On 4/22/2013 4:04 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
[quote] Dave, I had a visit from Jim Rore out of Stockton.... and I had moved my 10 to a friends hangar, and when Jim showed up I pulled his plane in.... ABSOLUTELY couldn't believe how easy it was... keep in mind, I've been moving mine in and out for 2 years. I asked him about it, and his response made perfect sense, he carries (IIRC) 60 psi.... and has for a long time... 5 or 6 years now. That's when I bumped my pressure up a bit.
Don McDonald
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Subject: Re: What's the nose and main wheels required tire pressure?
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Date: Monday, April 22, 2013, 2:26 PM
I was using 45 main and 40 front until I switched to Desser retreads. Then the plane got REALLY hard to pull out of the hangar. Checked brgs, brakes, etc. I finally upped the pressures to 60/50 and it's good as new.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Mike Whisky <[url=/mc/compose?to=rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net]rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net[/url]> wrote:
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Lowes Aircraft Supply makes a perfect metal plug for the hole you described (I think I use one that's about 1.25"). It's in the odds and ends cabinets in their hardware section.
Marcus
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Linn <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote:
I find this thread interesting. When I was a baby pilot I had a good mentor .... for almost everything involving aviation. He said to fill the tire until the outside rib just lifts off the ground. "Pounds don't work well because a wide range of airplane weights use the same size tire." Made sense to me so that's what I do. I get pretty even tire wear. Of course we're talking RVs here and there is noo such thing as even tire wear on the mains!!!
Have wheel pants? Get tubes with a 90 degree stem and drill a hole on the wheel pant where the stem points. Go to a truck tire store and get a couple of straight truck tire extensions. When you have the stem at the right point paint a white line on the inside of the tire so when you pull the airplane forward you can spot the white line and the tire should be in the right position for filling. Find a plastic plug to fit the hole (or is it the other way around) and your tire filling nightmares go away.
Now, question: When you fill the tire to 60 Lbs, which rib is off the ground?
Linn
On 4/22/2013 4:04 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
[quote] Dave, I had a visit from Jim Rore out of Stockton.... and I had moved my 10 to a friends hangar, and when Jim showed up I pulled his plane in.... ABSOLUTELY couldn't believe how easy it was... keep in mind, I've been moving mine in and out for 2 years. I asked him about it, and his response made perfect sense, he carries (IIRC) 60 psi.... and has for a long time... 5 or 6 years now. That's when I bumped my pressure up a bit.
Don McDonald
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Subject: Re: What's the nose and main wheels required tire pressure?
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Date: Monday, April 22, 2013, 2:26 PM
I was using 45 main and 40 front until I switched to Desser retreads. Then the plane got REALLY hard to pull out of the hangar. Checked brgs, brakes, etc. I finally upped the pressures to 60/50 and it's good as new.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Mike Whisky <[url=x-msg://130/mc/compose?to=rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net]rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net[/url]> wrote:
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There are metal 'goof plugs' in the electrical section ..... it has a zillion little metal fingers ..... that tear the dickens out of the fiberglass so you don't want those. That's why I use the plastic ones.
Like this: http://www.caplugs.com/productdetails.aspx?id=1000021&itemno=PIP+SERIES
I save all the plastic plugs/caps that show up in stuff I install and typically use them.
Linn
On 4/22/2013 6:29 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
[quote] Lowes Aircraft Supply makes a perfect metal plug for the hole you described (I think I use one that's about 1.25"). It's in the odds and ends cabinets in their hardware section.
Marcus
On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Linn <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote:
I find this thread interesting. When I was a baby pilot I had a good mentor .... for almost everything involving aviation. He said to fill the tire until the outside rib just lifts off the ground. "Pounds don't work well because a wide range of airplane weights use the same size tire." Made sense to me so that's what I do. I get pretty even tire wear. Of course we're talking RVs here and there is noo such thing as even tire wear on the mains!!!
Have wheel pants? Get tubes with a 90 degree stem and drill a hole on the wheel pant where the stem points. Go to a truck tire store and get a couple of straight truck tire extensions. When you have the stem at the right point paint a white line on the inside of the tire so when you pull the airplane forward you can spot the white line and the tire should be in the right position for filling. Find a plastic plug to fit the hole (or is it the other way around) and your tire filling nightmares go away.
Now, question: When you fill the tire to 60 Lbs, which rib is off the ground?
Linn
On 4/22/2013 4:04 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
| Quote: | Dave, I had a visit from Jim Rore out of Stockton.... and I had moved my 10 to a friends hangar, and when Jim showed up I pulled his plane in.... ABSOLUTELY couldn't believe how easy it was... keep in mind, I've been moving mine in and out for 2 years. I asked him about it, and his response made perfect sense, he carries (IIRC) 60 psi.... and has for a long time... 5 or 6 years now. That's when I bumped my pressure up a bit.
Don McDonald
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Subject: Re: What's the nose and main wheels required tire pressure?
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Date: Monday, April 22, 2013, 2:26 PM
I was using 45 main and 40 front until I switched to Desser retreads. Then the plane got REALLY hard to pull out of the hangar. Checked brgs, brakes, etc. I finally upped the pressures to 60/50 and it's good as new.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
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Try Nitrogen...
The molecules are larger than air so it stops them pesky slow leaks...
Works for me 6 months and holding 96.3 hrs
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Given that regular air is 78% nitrogen, are you saying that
everything but the nitrogen leaks out if using air? If so, wouldn't
that eventually leave just nitrogen if you kept refilling it?
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Where does one get a nitrogen bottle?
Thanks,
Marcus
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Try Nitrogen...
The molecules are larger than air so it stops them pesky slow leaks...
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I'm just telling you mine has held pressure for 6 months.
Something's you just can't explain,
Temps ranging from 25 degrees to 90 degrees so far this year
If it works who cares why???
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I fill mine with Helium. It is much more expensive, and leaks
so fast I have to top them off every week, but I get
a larger useful load by .0032 lbs.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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> Try Nitrogen...
> The molecules are larger than air so it stops them pesky slow leaks...
> Works for me 6 months and holding 96.3 hrs
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Given that regular air is 78% nitrogen, are you saying that
everything but the nitrogen leaks out if using air? If so, wouldn't
that eventually leave just nitrogen if you kept refilling it?
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You can get most any gas at a local gas supplier. Airgas is
one of our local ones...can get O2, Nitrogen, Helium and
just about anything. They deliver to the semiconductor industry,
hospitals, and everything else in our area.
If you want to own your own bottle, you can buy a small one
and get them to fill it, but they probably would do lease/exchanges
that you could do pretty cheap. I bet Nitrogen is super
cheap to buy. But as was noted...since Air is almost 80% N2
already, I'm not sure the added benefit is worth the cost.
Tim
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Where does one get a nitrogen bottle?
Thanks,
Marcus
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Try Nitrogen...
The molecules are larger than air so it stops them pesky slow leaks...
Works for me 6 months and holding 96.3 hrs
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This is an OWT. As someone else pointed out, if the oxygen really diffused out faster than nitrogen, you could fill with air, wait for the pressure to drop 20%, refill with air and then have 96% nitrogen!
FBO's usually have a pressurized nitrogen bottle for filling struts, because (1) the high pressure plus the right valves make the job easy, and (2) it keeps water vapor (and rust) out.
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I pressurize nose to 45 and mains to 47 psi(5 over). My std Van's provided tires/tubes lose 1 psi/month. Recheck every four months. I remove the nose pant and fwd half of mains to inspect and clean while in there. Our pressures need to be close to specs for proper energy absorption.
After 103 hrs my brake pads have worn less than 1/16" from new dimension. It helps when you don't jam the brakes on to make that first turn off', maintain 70 kts on final and use the rudder to steer as much as possible.
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I heard there's a huge nitrogen farm in Nebraska that's a gigantic series of inner-tubes.  They just keep filling it with air and siphoning off the nitrogen.
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Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
You can get most any gas at a local gas supplier. Â Airgas is
one of our local ones...can get O2, Nitrogen, Helium and
just about anything. They deliver to the semiconductor industry,
hospitals, and everything else in our area.
If you want to own your own bottle, you can buy a small one
and get them to fill it, but they probably would do lease/exchanges
that you could do pretty cheap. Â I bet Nitrogen is super
cheap to buy. Â But as was noted...since Air is almost 80% N2
already, I'm not sure the added benefit is worth the cost.
Tim
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On 4/22/2013 7:57 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com (cooprv7(at)yahoo.com)>
Where does one get a nitrogen bottle?
Thanks,
Marcus
On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:46 PM, "JimVillani" <Jim(at)JimVillani.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JimVillani" <Jim(at)jimvillani.com (Jim(at)jimvillani.com)>
Try Nitrogen...
The molecules are larger than air so it stops them pesky slow leaks...
Works for me 6 months and holding 96.3 hrs
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BTW, physics works both ways. If the tubes were really permeable to oxygen but not nitrogen, and you filled the tube with 45 psi(g) pure nitrogen, then over time you would see the pressure RISE about 5% as oxygen from the atmosphere diffused into the tube!
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