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Builder_Bill

Joined: 19 Sep 2012
Posts: 7
Location: Newport News, VA USA

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

I want to make a decision on sourcing a crimper & terminal set that I can use for Big AWG's on both E-AB and certified alike (one tool to rule them all).



This question has been eating me for a while. The sound judgement falls to me on HB/OBAM, but I've asked around a bit and nobody I've asked can tell me what crimper or process is kosher to repair on certified. I didn't ask an OEM or a FSDO and wasn't going to.



The next time I see a B-lead terminal that looks like it's about to fatigue off and ground big current or a batt cable chaffing. I would like to not AOG, but instead fab up a quality replacement from stock. 



I've seen Bob's nail & solder / gas-tight technique. Nice.

Only recently have I herd Bob state "there is no such thing as a certified part". With that in mind I'm starting to think that there is no "certified" tool / precedence for this repair outside of an OEM or 145. So, If I do this am I making a "minor repair" or am I making an "unapproved part" w/o a PMA? Logic tells me the former. I just want to use the closest thing to "acceptable methods". BTW, the only reference I can find in AC43.13-1B CHG 1 is 11-98i "use appropriate crimping tools".



All this aside, what do you listers, and Bob, think of the 

BANTAM ROTA-CRIMP a.k.a AMP Model 601075-1 and Solistrand branded crimps combo + double heat shrink? How about Avery Tools Item #461? 

Bill Jones

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stearman456

Joined: 14 Aug 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

Here be what you seek:



http://www.theterminaltool.com/Home_Page.html



If there's anything better I'd like to see it.



Dan

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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:03 pm Post subject: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

Harbor Freight has a hydraulic crimper that I am using and have been extremely pleased with.  It makes picture perfect crimps.  The dies are marked incorrectly as to wire gauge and the largest die set will crimp a 2 AWG terminal even though it's stamped 00.  See at: 

 http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html

Chris Stone

 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Builder_Bill <jonesw(at)mindspring.com (jonesw(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:

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 I want to make a decision on sourcing a crimper & terminal set that I can use for Big AWG's on both E-AB and certified alike (one tool to rule them all).

 

 This question has been eating me for a while. The sound judgement falls to me on HB/OBAM, but I've asked around a bit and nobody I've asked can tell me what crimper or process is kosher to repair on certified. I didn't ask an OEM or a FSDO and wasn't going to.

  

 The next time I see a B-lead terminal that looks like it's about to fatigue off and ground big current or a batt cable chaffing. I would like to not AOG, but instead fab up a quality replacement from stock.

 

 I've seen Bob's nail & solder / gas-tight technique. Nice.

 Only recently have I herd Bob state "there is no such thing as a certified part". With that in mind I'm starting to think that there is no "certified" tool / precedence for this repair outside of an OEM or 145. So, If I do this am I making a "minor repair" or am I making an "unapproved part" w/o a PMA? Logic tells me the former. I just want to use the closest thing to "acceptable methods". BTW, the only reference I can find in AC43.13-1B CHG 1 is 11-98i "use appropriate crimping tools".

  

 All this aside, what do you listers, and Bob, think of the

 BANTAM ROTA-CRIMP a.k.a AMP Model 601075-1 and Solistrand branded crimps combo + double heat shrink? How about Avery Tools Item #461?

 

 

 Bill Jones

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Builder_Bill

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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

Yeah, I've seen that TT-500 (or maybe the previous version of it) at SteinAir maybe.



As for HF, leave it the them to produce a hydraulic crimper south of $1000, way south   . LOL.



Am I wrong to expect that an airworthy crimp tool should have a strict association with a line of terminals  . As with Amp/Tyco Crimpers & AMP PIDG terminals. 



Neither of these two tools (TT-500 & HF) advertise a matched brand of terminals, or do they?

Or an I'm brain washed by the Mil Specs and Standards Groups?  



Between the two, I lean toward the TT-500, but with a local HF just 1 mile from me, now I have to go see what $60 in HF $ looks/feels like.

Maybe others can weigh in. 



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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

I would agree but it seems to "Out of stock" permanently. 



John Ciolino

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Builder_Bill

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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

Wow, that TT5000 is looking better all the time. The designer really put his pride in this puppy. That web site must be redone since I last saw it. The pics look very convincing.



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Builder_Bill

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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified?

Dam it, now I remember this dude.



Stein had this back ordered last year and said this guy is having a hard time keeping with US foundries on small runs and is determined to not export the work or let the quality suffer. Assuming that's the story I can't say I don't sympathize.



I would like to find out if they will be available again.



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