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Harold Lanfear

Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Posts: 6
Location: West Grove, PA

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

I’m following  Bob’s Z-13/20 circuit and ready to install the 14 AWG fusible link in the 10 AWG  feed to the Battery Buss.  However, there are no crimp connectors matching  both sizes; can I solder this joint or are there better ways?  I don’t have  spade and socket terminals to match and hate to make a purchase for just a  couple of terminals.  Thanks much.



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Neal.George(at)hurlburt.a
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

Harold - 



You have several acceptable options.  Among them:



1.  Solder the 10-ga to 14-ga junctions, support with heat-shrink & cover

with fiberglass tube.

2.  Strip the 14-ga wire back twice as far as you normally would and fold

the stripped end back on itself to better fill the 10-ga crimp connector.

Heat-shrink and fiberglass tube as indicated in AEC.



neal

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:15 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

At 09:26 AM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

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		  I’m following Bob’s Z-13/20 circuit and ready to install the 14 AWG fusible link in the 10 AWG feed to the Battery Buss.  However, there are no crimp connectors matching both sizes; can I solder this joint or are there better ways?  I don’t have spade and socket terminals to match and hate to make a purchase for just a couple of terminals.  Thanks much. 	


    Suggest you use a MAX 30 fuse and

    mating in-line fuse holder



 



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   available from most big-box auto parts

   stores.



 

   Bob . . .

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pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

NAPA is now selling the kind Bob likes. They have the double metal 

that allows the insulation to be crimped. You need to crimp twice to 

get both the wire and the insulation. They pass my pull test and grab 

the 1/4" spade plenty hard. Try them before you buy the AMP ones. So 

far just red and blue not yellow where I live. Check your store If 

they have the yellow you will be good to go with a little heat shrink.



Maybe Bob will give us and evaluation?? HINT.

Paul

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At 07:26 AM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I'm following Bob's Z-13/20 circuit and ready to install the 14 AWG 

fusible link in the 10 AWG feed to the Battery Buss.  However, there 

are no crimp connectors matching both sizes; can I solder this joint 

or are there better ways?  I don't have spade and socket terminals 

to match and hate to make a purchase for just a couple of 

terminals.  Thanks much.

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

At 12:02 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



NAPA is now selling the kind Bob likes. They have the double metal 

that allows the insulation to be crimped. You need to crimp twice to 

get both the wire and the insulation. They pass my pull test and 

grab the 1/4" spade plenty hard. Try them before you buy the AMP 

ones. So far just red and blue not yellow where I live. Check your 

store If they have the yellow you will be good to go with a little heat shrink.



Maybe Bob will give us and evaluation?? HINT.


	


    Hmmmm . . . do you have a manufacturer and part

    number by chance? We might be able to learn a

    lot from the manufacturer's data.

   Bob . . .

pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

I am 1000 miles away from my shop, but I have a package of the new 

style butt connectors in my truck. NAPA P/N 784331. They are reds 

tranlucent plastic and have the extra metal extension. I use several 

rachet crimpers and they all give a good result with these things. 

Takes 2 crimps with my crimpers to grab theinsulation.

Branded by Balkamp (a NAPA house brand). Made In Taiwan

The other stuff in my truck are the cheepe 3M automotive stuff you 

are fanmiliar with and they will not grab the insulation. However 

they do give the soild crimp like your AMP tests.

Mabe the attached pic will reveal something?

At 11:17 AM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

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<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>

At 12:02 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>NAPA is now selling the kind Bob likes. They have the double metal 

>that allows the insulation to be crimped. You need to crimp twice 

>to get both the wire and the insulation. They pass my pull test and 

>grab the 1/4" spade plenty hard. Try them before you buy the AMP 

>ones. So far just red and blue not yellow where I live. Check your 

>store If they have the yellow you will be good to go with a little heat shrink.

>

>Maybe Bob will give us and evaluation?? HINT.

    Hmmmm . . . do you have a manufacturer and part

    number by chance? We might be able to learn a

    lot from the manufacturer's data.

   Bob . . .

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

At 06:30 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I am 1000 miles away from my shop, but I have a package of the new 

style butt connectors in my truck. NAPA P/N 784331. They are reds 

tranlucent plastic and have the extra metal extension. I use several 

rachet crimpers and they all give a good result with these things. 

Takes 2 crimps with my crimpers to grab theinsulation.

Branded by Balkamp (a NAPA house brand). Made In Taiwan



The other stuff in my truck are the cheepe 3M automotive stuff you 

are fanmiliar with and they will not grab the insulation. However 

they do give the soild crimp like your AMP tests.

Mabe the attached pic will reveal something?


	


   Hmmm . . . are these normally stocked in the stores

   or do they have to order them in?  Are they available

   in less than full box lots?

   Bob . . .

pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:16 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

Stock item in Durango CO store. Stock from the Albuerque warehouse. 

Find then on the shelf. no need to ask at the desk.

Paul

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At 06:37 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote:

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<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>



At 06:30 PM 11/5/2010, you wrote:

>I am 1000 miles away from my shop, but I have a package of the new 

>style butt connectors in my truck. NAPA P/N 784331. They are reds 

>tranlucent plastic and have the extra metal extension. I use 

>several rachet crimpers and they all give a good result with these 

>things. Takes 2 crimps with my crimpers to grab theinsulation.

>Branded by Balkamp (a NAPA house brand). Made In Taiwan

>

>The other stuff in my truck are the cheepe 3M automotive stuff you 

>are fanmiliar with and they will not grab the insulation. However 

>they do give the soild crimp like your AMP tests.

>Mabe the attached pic will reveal something?



   Hmmm . . . are these normally stocked in the stores

   or do they have to order them in?  Are they available

   in less than full box lots?

   Bob . . .

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

At 09:12 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Stock item in Durango CO store. Stock from the Albuerque warehouse. 

Find then on the shelf. no need to ask at the desk.

Paul


	


   I'll see if I can pick some up. I'm going to Wichita

   tonight.

   Bob . . .

eschlanser

Joined: 08 Apr 2010
Posts: 60

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

Bob,



Did you ever pick up some of these and/or check the manufacturer's data? Wondering if they really are the "right stuff".



Eric S. 

 	  nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote: 	
		  At 09:12 AM 11/6/2010, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Stock item in Durango CO store. Stock from the Albuerque warehouse. 

Find then on the shelf. no need to ask at the desk.

Paul



	


   I'll see if I can pick some up. I'm going to Wichita

   tonight.

   Bob . . .

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
Guest

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: Fuselink Link 14/10 AWG connection

At 05:03 PM 5/24/2013, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Bob,



Did you ever pick up some of these and/or check the manufacturer's 

data? Wondering if they really are the "right stuff".



Eric S.


	


   Man . . . that's been awhile. I had to stop

   in several NAPA stores before I found any

   butt splices and then they were similar but

   a different part number. I think they were okay

   in performance. It's been so long ago I don't

   recall.



   There's a bunch of PIDG alternatives out there,

   many are adequate to the task. It would be difficult

   to evaluate a bunch of PIDG wannabe parts and

   attempt to sprinkle any sort of holy-water on

   them. That could crank up a never ending task!



   I think it's pretty clear what we expect of our

   non-insulated and pre-insulated terminals for

   performance. We've discussed the fact that a

   useful study mates wires, terminals and tools.



   There's some illustrated discussions on the website.



   I think the best general rule of thumb I can offer

   is to do your own tear-down of the as-applied

   terminal and see how the two metals come together

   and how well the insulation is gripped without

   'squashing' it.



   I use a Dremel tool cut-off wheel to section

   the wire grip. Polish the cut-line with 800 wet-or-

   dry paper. I have a 40X binocular inspection

   'scope through which I can evaluate the work-

   product and take pictures. There are dozens of

   really reasonable illuminated, pocket microscopes

   on ebay . . .



http://tinyurl.com/py6x8uq



   that would be quite adequate for getting up

   close and personal with the 'mash'. With a few

   simple tools and a lot of curiosity, you can

   easily deduce suitability to task for a variety

   of wire/terminal/tool combinations.



   Bob . . .

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