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f.kyle(at)sympatico.ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: aileron SLOP

It appears that over the years the dimensions of the aileron control system have changed, and I now have about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop between the ailerons - not a good thing. From the wing bottom windows, it appears to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing areas that I could find.

            I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to cancel this motion. I realise someone has probably already covered this ground, but am jiggered if I can remember how to find it.

Cheers, Ferg

C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop

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kaarsberg(at)terra.com.br
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: aileron SLOP

Ferg,

If you take off the wings, fix the yoke and the aileron and then wiggle the wiggly bits where the wing root and the CM meet you should feel any slop, to tell you where to look. 

Should there be no slop, I would guess there is a misalignment of the wiggly parts or perhaps the tufnel spacer on its mating face has departed?

Brgds,



Alex Kaarsberg



Em 24/07/2013, Ã s 12:07, <f.kyle(at)sympatico.ca (f.kyle(at)sympatico.ca)> escreveu:



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It appears that over the years the dimensions of the aileron control system have changed, and I now have about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop between the ailerons - not a good thing. From the wing bottom windows, it appears to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing areas that I could find.

            I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to cancel this motion. I realise someone has probably already covered this ground, but am jiggered if I can remember how to find it.

Cheers, Ferg

C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop

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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:05 am Post subject: aileron SLOP

Hello Ferg,

  

 I suspect the problem is most likely in one or both  of the aileron quick connect mechanisms but before checking them  firstly ensure ALL rod end fittings and  associated bolts within the whole aileron circuit are properly tightened.   Also check that one of the tufnol pads on the quick connects has not come  adrift.

  

 Assuming everything aforementioned is tight and/or  in place, get a helper to hold the control stick progressively in the full left,  centre and full right positions while you check the free movement of one aileron  at a time in all of those positions.  If you find the free movement varies  when in each of those positions, the problem will likely be one of misalignment  of the bolts on which the quick connects pivot.  Check the other aileron in  the same manner.

 If you once had no free play as you describe but do  now, I suspect there might have been a collision in a quick connect  mechanism during the rigging or de-rigging of the wings at some  time.

  

 If the problem IS found to be one of  misalignment of the quick connect pivot bolts, we will have to discuss a method  for fixing this later.

  

 Hope this is of some help mate.

  

 Cheers from your antipodean cousin

  

 Kingsley

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: aileron SLOP

Fergus

Kingsley has sais it all I think. Until source of play identified that is.

Graham

        From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.au>

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 I suspect the problem is most likely in one or both  of the aileron quick connect mechanisms but before checking them  firstly ensure ALL rod end fittings and  associated bolts within the whole aileron circuit are properly tightened.   Also check that one of the tufnol pads on the quick connects has not come  adrift.

 Assuming everything aforementioned is tight and/or  in place, get a helper to hold the control stick progressively in the full left,  centre and full right positions while you check the free movement of one aileron  at a time in all of those positions.  If you find the free movement varies  when in each of those positions, the problem will likely be one of misalignment  of the bolts on which the quick connects pivot.  Check the other aileron in  the same manner.

 If you once had no free play as you describe but do  now, I suspect there might have been a collision in a quick connect  mechanism during the rigging or de-rigging of the wings at some  time.

 If the problem IS found to be one of  misalignment of the quick connect pivot bolts, we will have to discuss a method  for fixing this later.

 Hope this is of some help mate.

 Cheers from your antipodean cousin

 Kingsley

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