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Alan Carter

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Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: Prop Tape.

Hi All

Three Bladed Propeller,

Use of Prop Tape. (12" length per blade)



Is it likely to unbalance the prop.

Has anyone lost one strip from the blade.

Any Comments on using Prop Tape 



Alan

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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: Prop Tape.

Alan, I have seen a demonstration of prop balancing at 

Woodcomp where the addition of half a small postage stamp 

on one blade was clearly shown to unbalance it, so that I 

guess you would need to be extremely careful in your 

application or plan to have your prop rebalanced 

afterwards. Regards, David Joyce, G- XSDJ



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 Hi All

 Three Bladed Propeller,

 Use of Prop Tape. (12" length per blade)

 

 Is it likely to unbalance the prop.

 Has anyone lost one strip from the blade.

 Any Comments on using Prop Tape 

 

 Alan

 

 

 

 

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: Prop Tape.

Alan

there are several things to consider,



It will unbance the prop and the only way to rebalance is dynamic.



If you are unlucky and have a tape come off on a hot day the

vibration will be horrendous. Cracked engine mounts is not unknown.



It will spoil the carefully designed airfoil section and soil efficiency

My 2 cents

Graham





        From: Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013, 21:59

 Subject: Prop Tape.

  

 

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Hi All

Three Bladed Propeller,

Use of Prop Tape. (12" length per blade)



Is it likely to unbalance the prop.

Has anyone lost one strip from the blade.

Any Comments on using Prop Tape 



Alan





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Alan Carter

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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Prop Tape.

Hi All.

I have the pro tape, maybe i will wait a while before doing anything.

My prop i guess is already out of balance, People tell me the spinner is going up and down, but i really don,t notice anything in the cockpit.

Its been like it for years as the previous owner never did anything to the aircraft and just clocked up 300 hours of cheap flying,Plus the 5 hours after i had paid for it.

The prop is a Airplarse  PV50, seems to have a groups  of washers [5] in three places located around the hub, all you could do is file bits of the washers, see no other way,?? have no spares washers.

How long would it take with a (prop balancer) to balance a prop.??

The nearest place to Headcorn that could do the job.?



Regards.

Alan

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brian.davies(at)clara.co.
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:47 pm Post subject: Prop Tape.

Alan,



The Europa Club has a prop balancer.  Contact Pete Jeffers.



Regards



Brian Davies



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:09 am Post subject: Prop Tape.

Alan

Is your plane a Classic? A wobbling spinner is not good, Classic spinner backplates were not round

unless you are lucky and have one of the dished carbon fibre ones. 

Graham

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 Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 0:57

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Hi All.

I have the pro tape, maybe i will wait a while before doing anything.

My prop i guess is  already out of balance, People tell me the spinner is going up and down, but i really don,t notice anything in the cockpit.

Its been like it for years as the previous owner never did anything to the aircraft and just clocked up 300 hours of cheap flying,Plus the 5 hours after i had paid for it.

The prop is a Airplarse  PV50, seems to have a groups  of washers [5] in three places located around the hub, all you could do is file bits of the washers, see no other way,?? have no spares washers.

How long would it take with a (prop balancer) to balance a prop.??

The nearest place to Headcorn that could do the job.?



Regards.

Alan





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Alan Carter

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Prop Tape.

Hi Graham.

My plane was a Classic but was converted to a Tri Gear by Europa Aircraft Company many years ago. I understand its XL forward of the Fire wall.

The spinner is quite large and of a really nice shape, it seems to be made of what looks like thin Glass Fibre. Fixing seems to be screws in the back plate and screws forward of the blades,



Alan

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:41 am Post subject: Prop Tape.

Classic spinner is 13" dia and even longer than that. Not well balanced and

the back and front plates are very floppy and too close together.. 

If you have the CF ones they are both dished (for stiffness) and further apart.

Don't think anyone is making them any more. Maybe someone has a 3D printer

that can print Graphene? Boy, would that be a dream coem true!

Graham





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Hi Graham.

My plane was a Classic but was converted to a Tri Gear by Europa Aircraft Company many years ago. I understand its XL forward of the Fire wall.

The spinner is quite large and of a really nice shape, it seems to be made of what looks like thin Glass Fibre. Fixing seems to be screws in the back plate and screws forward of the blades,



Alan





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Alan Carter

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Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Prop Tape.

Have just had a look, 3 groups of washers with central allen bolt,

the washers are in the groups are of different washer amounts, so this must be the way they balance the PV50 prop.

Spinner is not alloy, looks like glass fibre, mounting seems quite ridged,

Fixed to back plate, and there is another fixing plate forward of the blades .

Back plate most probably not central.?

Alan

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