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Paul M 383

Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 97
Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:56 am Post subject: Panel Paint

What paint finish and manufacturer have others found successful?



I am thinking mid grey for the main fibreglass and a lighter grey for the aluminium sub-panels (factory-supplied). Anodising turns out brown on this alloy, otherwise I'd have done that.



I hear that satin is a good finish (gloss is too reflective and matt gathers dust and greasy fingermarks, so soon looks patchy and ugly - a bit like me...)



Obviously I need a UV-resistant paint and Plasti-kote make a good range, their Super being well-recommended. Only problem is they do a light grey satin and a black satin... the only mid grey is gloss or matt.



Have others found any problem with black as a main panel colour, or with matt as a finish texture?



So, choices.... the best finish (satin) in the "wrong" colour (black) or the best colour (grey) on the "wrong" finish (matt)?



Grateful for any answers.



Photo of panel so far, if it helps to picture the problem...



Paul M

383

XS Mono 912S



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danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

Hi Paul,

               I had my panel sprayed by Mtthew Russell using "nextel" a 

lovely non reflective finish.  many colour available and not that 

expensive  . pic attached.



cheers Danny. G-c.e.r.i



On 21/08/2013 20:56, Europaul383 wrote:

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 What paint finish and manufacturer have others found successful?



 I am thinking mid grey for the main fibreglass and a lighter grey for the aluminium sub-panels (factory-supplied). Anodising turns out brown on this alloy, otherwise I'd have done that.



 I hear that satin is a good finish (gloss is too reflective and matt gathers dust and greasy fingermarks, so soon looks patchy and ugly - a bit like me...)



 Obviously I need a UV-resistant paint and Plasti-kote make a good range, their Super being well-recommended. Only problem is they do a light grey satin and a black satin... the only mid grey is gloss or matt.



 Have others found any problem with black as a main panel colour, or with matt as a finish texture?



 So, choices.... the best finish (satin) in the "wrong" colour (black) or the best colour (grey) on the "wrong" finish (matt)?



 Grateful for any answers.



 Photo of panel so far, if it helps to picture the problem...



 Paul M

 383

 XS Mono 912S



 [Trans: aluminium = aluminum; colour = color; grey = gray ]





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rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

Hi Paul,



Your considerations are all spot on. Let me add another - heat absorption.

Unless you live in Scotland, if you use a very dark color like black, the inside of your panel will get quite toasty. Consider an active ventilation system to protect those fine electrical gadgets!

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fireflier

Joined: 24 Jun 2012
Posts: 58

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:03 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

Hi 



I have just recently painted my panel with rust-oleum textured spray paint and covered the aluminium sub panels with a carbon fibre wrap. 



I have attached a couple of pictures showing my panel. 



Kind regards

Donald

Sent from my iPhone



On 21 Aug 2013, at 20:56, "Europaul383" <europaul383(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



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 What paint finish and manufacturer have others found successful?

 

 I am thinking mid grey for the main fibreglass and a lighter grey for the aluminium sub-panels (factory-supplied). Anodising turns out brown on this alloy, otherwise I'd have done that.

 

 I hear that satin is a good finish (gloss is too reflective and matt gathers dust and greasy fingermarks, so soon looks patchy and ugly - a bit like me...)

 

 Obviously I need a UV-resistant paint and Plasti-kote make a good range, their Super being well-recommended. Only problem is they do a light grey satin and a black satin... the only mid grey is gloss or matt.

 

 Have others found any problem with black as a main panel colour, or with matt as a finish texture?

 

 So, choices.... the best finish (satin) in the "wrong" colour (black) or the best colour (grey) on the "wrong" finish (matt)?

 

 Grateful for any answers.

 

 Photo of panel so far, if it helps to picture the problem...

 

 Paul M

 383

 XS Mono 912S

 

 [Trans: aluminium = aluminum; colour = color; grey = gray ]

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407170#407170

 

 

 

 

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Bob.Fairall(at)fairalls.c
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:53 am Post subject: Panel Paint

I'm at the same stage ........... does anyone know of a UK source of Nextel paint to spray on yourself please?



Thanks, Bob G-CBXW



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:14 am Post subject: Panel Paint

Bob

I used to buy it from G F Haynes in Leicester. 01533 536771.

But! that was 20 years ago. Don't know if they still exist.

Graham





        From: Bob Fairall <Bob.Fairall(at)fairalls.co.uk>

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--> Europa-List message posted by: Bob Fairall <Bob.Fairall(at)fairalls.co.uk (Bob.Fairall(at)fairalls.co.uk)>



I'm at the same stage ........... does anyone know of a UK source of Nextel paint to spray on yourself please?



Thanks, Bob G-CBXW



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ptag.dev(at)talktalk.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:43 am Post subject: Panel Paint

Hi!

 Colour chart here:-  Mine was actually Cobalt Blue.:-

www.goldburnfinishers.co.uk/

Also:- www.accoatings.co.uk/ýwho are in Birmingham ( I think they were the

outfit that "supplied only"  my paint, although I had them near Leicester in

my mind.  .....Long time ago ! The Paint is actually known as Nextel Suade

Paint and that is the key to ensure no reflection on the windows for

photographic work.  

Regards

Bob Harrison. G-PTAG

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goff

Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 71

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

G-CHOX followed in Boeing & Mooney's footsteps - beige. 



Goff

rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

If I recall, the Nextel Suede is the standard finish in Boeing Air Transport class aircraft.  And if you can find it retail it will have a matching price, i.e., the sky is the limit!

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Paul M 383

Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 97
Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

Thanks to all for the useful input. Nextel is emerging as a clear favourite.



I have, however, heard it can attract greasy fingermarks - can anybody who has been flying behind it for any length of time (Bob H?) confirm or deny? Or any general reports on serviceability? Apologies to those who have applied Nextel and not yet flown...!



The bad news is it is Â£47.81 for 1 litre (covers 5 sqm), plus primer at Â£21.87 and thinner at Â£9.45 for 1 litre, plus Â£30 carriage (all + VAT!) Anybody fancy going halves on all of the above in Nextel's light grey? http://www.goldburnfinishers.co.uk/nextel_chart.php



Or, better yet, anybody got 1/2 a litre of light grey (or near offer) plus primer & thinners for sale to a good home?



Best,



Paul M

383

XS Mono 912S



[Trans: favourite = favorite; litre = liter]

ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:19 am Post subject: Panel Paint

Hi! I think there probably isn't many more people with greasy fingers than

me !  With Cobalt Blue no Problem anyway !

Also have done some modifications with a brush ...still no problems and a

good texture colour to  match too! Get a check price from the

Birmingham/Leicester people but hey ...you can't take it with you !

Bob H G-PTAG  

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spcialeffects

Joined: 29 Aug 2012
Posts: 306
Location: Kent

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

What about that fabric that rally cars have their dashboards wrapped in? non reflective suade stuff?

clivesutton

Joined: 23 Jan 2013
Posts: 187
Location: KENILWORTH

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

Hey Paul,



I have about 0.5l of the grey and more importantly a qty of liquid hardener and some thinners - see pic



The tricky bit is how to get it to you as being solvent based paint the RM are cagey about posting it.



Any good to you?



Clive Sutton

G-TAGR kit 341

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clivesutton

Joined: 23 Jan 2013
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Location: KENILWORTH

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

PS; the UK supplier at the time was Mankiewicz UK in Leicester:

Unit 26, Ashville Way, Whetstone, LE8 6NU 0116 284 7780.



Not sure if they are still around but if you prefer a different colour from the 'anthacite' I have, its worth trying to call them.  



I can recommend it - looks good, does not seem to show any fingermarks, and does not reflect sunlight in the air.  



A pic of my panel attached btw



Clive

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Patrick Tunney

Joined: 24 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

Paul i might be interested in sharing costs. I contacted Goldburn earlier in the year to spray the panel and bagage access bay bulkhead.



Pat



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Bob.Fairall(at)fairalls.c
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

I'm intrigued ...... I contacted Goldburn about a month ago and they told me they could not supply Nextel for me to use, but would paint the panel in Nextel for £380 + VAT .....!!!



I would far prefer to buy the items listed by Paul below to use myself rather than pay nearly £500 for them to do it .....!!!



Anyone got a strategy .......... or a few cans of Nextel, thinners, etc. please?



Bob XS 494 G-CBXW





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brian.davies(at)clara.co.
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

You could save yourself a lot of money by spraying the panel with ordinary

gloss spray paint of your colour choice and then rubbing down very lightly

and spraying with a clear satin varnish.  I did this on my panel and it is

still perfect after 6 years.  Total cost about £20.



Regards



Brian davies



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Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Brian Davies wrote:

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		  You could save yourself a lot of money by spraying the panel with ordinary

gloss spray paint of your colour choice and then rubbing down very lightly

and spraying with a clear satin varnish.  I did this on my panel and it is

still perfect after 6 years.  Total cost about £20. 	




I say Amen to that...there are plenty of others ways for me to spend $500...but to each his own...

Fred

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danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: Panel Paint

On 22/08/2013 22:24, Bob Fairall wrote:

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 I'm intrigued ...... I contacted Goldburn about a month ago and they told me they could not supply Nextel for me to use, but would paint the panel in Nextel for £380 + VAT .....!!!



 I would far prefer to buy the items listed by Paul below to use myself rather than pay nearly £500 for them to do it .....!!!



 Anyone got a strategy .......... or a few cans of Nextel, thinners, etc. please?



 Bob XS 494 G-CBXW





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clivesutton

Joined: 23 Jan 2013
Posts: 187
Location: KENILWORTH

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Panel Paint

Hey Paul, 



I seem to have posted a reply in the wrong place - see earlier gtagr posts Re: paint etc



I have about 0.5l of the grey and more importantly a qty of liquid hardener and some thinners - see pic.  I've also listed the supplier in Leicester in case you want new/different colour.



The tricky bit is how to get it to you as being solvent based paint the RM are cagey about posting it. 



Any good to you? 



Clive Sutton 

G-TAGR kit 341

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