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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: swaging Reply with quote

This is a pretty basic series of questions.

I am replacing one of my landing gear safety cables on my model IV. The original cable has a copper nicopress sleeve. Are these special aircraft grade sleeves or can I use the aluminum sleeves from the local hardware store.. Aircraft Spruce sells both a copper and what looks as if an aluminum sleeve.

My second question relates to the swaging tool.  The swaging tool I have access to leaves a pretty large crimp and on such a small sleeve I could only get one crimp. I'm guessing that a smaller swaging tool, which would allow me to place a couple of crimps on the sleeve, would be much more desirable.

Any comments would be helpful.

Mike Chaney
Model IV

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: swaging Reply with quote

Mike,
I just replaced my rudder cables this summer so the subject is still fresh for me, I would suggest you use the aircraft grade sleeves, if your cable is Stainless you will want the plated sleeves. Number of crimps will depend on the size of the cable, if you are able to look up AC 43.13-1B starting at 7-140 through 7-148 it will give you all the data you need to understand cable designs and complete the job. Also, you can buy an inexpensive crimping tool from Aircraft Spruce or any of the other aircraft suppliers for around $15-$20 that will do a nice job. Hope this is helpful.

Lloyd C
KF5 – 912ul IVO IFA
Northern Mi.

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Chaney
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Subject: swaging

This is a pretty basic series of questions.



I am replacing one of my landing gear safety cables on my model IV. The original cable has a copper nicopress sleeve. Are these special aircraft grade sleeves or can I use the aluminum sleeves from the local hardware store.. Aircraft Spruce sells both a copper and what looks as if an aluminum sleeve.



My second question relates to the swaging tool. The swaging tool I have access to leaves a pretty large crimp and on such a small sleeve I could only get one crimp. I'm guessing that a smaller swaging tool, which would allow me to place a couple of crimps on the sleeve, would be much more desirable.



Any comments would be helpful.



Mike Chaney

Model IV

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: swaging Reply with quote

Mike,
This is my understanding. The 3/32" cables we use on the Model IV is swaged with a single crimp. Larger cables will use a second crimp. Think it is a factor of the force needed for the crimp. A large cable using a single wide crimp would require more pressure than could be achieved with a hand crimper. I agree that the recommended crimp is the nickel plated one, though I have used the solid copper non plated.
Lowell Fitt
Kitfox IV-1200 912UL
Cameron Park, CA



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Mike,
I just replaced my rudder cables this summer so the subject is still fresh for me, I would suggest you use the aircraft grade sleeves, if your cable is Stainless you will want the plated sleeves. Number of crimps will depend on the size of the cable, if you are able to look up AC 43.13-1B starting at 7-140 through 7-148 it will give you all the data you need to understand cable designs and complete the job. Also, you can buy an inexpensive crimping tool from Aircraft Spruce or any of the other aircraft suppliers for around $15-$20 that will do a nice job. Hope this is helpful.

Lloyd C
KF5 – 912ul IVO IFA
Northern Mi.

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Chaney
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:04 PM
To: kitfox
Subject: swaging



This is a pretty basic series of questions.



I am replacing one of my landing gear safety cables on my model IV. The original cable has a copper nicopress sleeve. Are these special aircraft grade sleeves or can I use the aluminum sleeves from the local hardware store.. Aircraft Spruce sells both a copper and what looks as if an aluminum sleeve.



My second question relates to the swaging tool. The swaging tool I have access to leaves a pretty large crimp and on such a small sleeve I could only get one crimp. I'm guessing that a smaller swaging tool, which would allow me to place a couple of crimps on the sleeve, would be much more desirable.



Any comments would be helpful.



Mike Chaney

Model IV

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