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t41pilot

Joined: 05 Sep 2011
Posts: 38
Location: Howard City, Michigan

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

I thought I would add a video to the available mix.  Flight with a Firefly here in Michigan on a cool evening with light winds.  We are fast running out of time here in the north.  I quit about the middle of October last year. I was already wearing a coat for this flight. Camera used was a Contour Roam mounted to my headset. 

http://youtu.be/fGq4gwImTcw

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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: New Firefly Video

Gregg- Nice video!  More!!!

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                                                              Bill Sullivan

                                                              Windsor Locks,  Ct.

                                                               FS 447



        From: t41pilot <t41pilot(at)frontier.com>

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:37 PM

 Subject: New Firefly Video

  

 

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I thought I would add a video to the available mix.  Flight with a Firefly here in Michigan on a cool evening with light winds.  We are fast running out of time here in the north.  I quit about the middle of October last year. I was already wearing a coat for this flight. Camera used was a Contour Roam mounted to my headset. 

http://youtu.be/fGq4gwImTcw



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Gregg Kaat

2011 Firefly





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Bill Long

Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Posts: 19

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject: New Firefly Video

Good video but you need a full shield. I live near lansing MI so I put a full shield on my firefly and life's been great in the air. cost me $300.00 well worth the money. Added 5 mph to my cruse speed.

Bill Long

2000 Firefly

        From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>

 To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:02 PM

 Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firefly Video

   Gregg- Nice video!  More!!!

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                                                              Bill  Sullivan

                                                              Windsor Locks,  Ct.

                                                               FS 447

        From: t41pilot <t41pilot(at)frontier.com>

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:37 PM

 Subject: New Firefly Video

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "t41pilot" <t41pilot(at)frontier.com (t41pilot(at)frontier.com)>

I thought I would add a video to the available mix.  Flight with a Firefly here in Michigan on a cool evening with light winds.  We are fast running out of time here in the north.  I quit about the middle of October last year. I was already wearing a coat for this flight. Camera used was a Contour Roam mounted to my headset. 

http://youtu.be/fGq4gwImTcw

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Gregg Kaat

2011 Firefly

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:53 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

Gregg,

Nice video.



Pity about the Ride of the Valkyries. You should have had the Dambusters 

March in there.



Lovely country but landing places look a bit few and far between for when it 

all goes quiet.



Pat

t41pilot

Joined: 05 Sep 2011
Posts: 38
Location: Howard City, Michigan

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:08 am Post subject: Re: New Firefly Video

Yes, I agree, the landing places are few where I live unless I hang around the farmers fields but no fun in that. I'll have to do the best I can in any given situation. It's been many years since I've seen the Dambusters movie and didn't know there was a song that went with it.  Wish I would have thought of that.  Sounds like a better choice. As far as the windshield idea, I wouldn't mind having one and brakes as well but can't afford the extra weight or speed.  I'm operating as a legal ultralight.  I'm already flying at the legal speed limits and then some with a tail wind. My ground speed on the return trip from the Dam was 70 mph already on my GPS with my rpms at 5300.

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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

Yes, I agree, the landing places are few where I live  



I'm already flying at the legal speed limits and then some

with a tail wind. My ground speed on the return trip from

the Dam was 70 mph already on my GPS with my rpms at 5300.



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Gregg Kaat

2011 Firefly

 

Hi Gregg K/Kolbers:



When I anticipate flying over water, where water is the best

forced landing area available, I wear a co2 inflatable life

jacket.  It is very small and very light.  Saw a nice wind

breaker in a marine store recently that doubles as a PFD

(personal flotation device).  No co2 cartridge involved.  I

like that idea.



If you go down in water the PFD may not save your life, but

it will give you a much better chance than none at all.

About the same as a parachute, maybe....



Trying to get out of a Kolb Firestar, that is on its back in

a cotton field is very difficult, or hanging in the harness

of a MKIII on its back in a clump of wild roses on a fence

row isn't easy either.  Upside down under water would really

be a trying situation, getting the harness off and out of

the cockpit.



john h

mkIII

Rock House, OR

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:00 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

I'm already flying at the legal speed limits >>



You have a speed limit? What is the rationale for that?



Pat

lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:13 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

Look up part 103 that covers Ultra light planes in the US. As for the rational? it is only necessary to know that it is in man's nature to regulate themselves and especially the ones that insist on having fun. Larry



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russk50(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

You Brits are just more sensible than us Yanks. You know that!

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t41pilot

Joined: 05 Sep 2011
Posts: 38
Location: Howard City, Michigan

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: New Firefly Video

Thanks John. I'm using the CO2 vest option. It is lightweight enough and not too cumbersome. I agree that if you land any plane upside down, the options are worse in that situation especially in water. I make sure I'm within gliding distance to shore and will  try the best  for a nice full stall right side up landing in shallow water if the situation arises.  I hope to be doing a Lake Michigan flight yet this year down the shoreline when the fall colors are cooking.  They've just started.  Another week or 2 and they should be peaking.

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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:47 pm Post subject: New Firefly Video

I hope to be doing a Lake Michigan flight yet this year

down the shoreline when the fall colors are cooking.

They've just started.  Another week or 2 and they should be

peaking.



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Gregg Kaat

 



Gregg K/Kolbers:



Been fortunate to fly all the Great Lakes over the years in

my MKIII.  Really enjoyed the scenery and the people.  Flew

over Erie, Huron, and Michigan, in my Firestar, back in

1989, on the way from New England to Oshkosh.  That was an

exciting flight all the way from Alabama and back home.

Wish I had flown more cross country flights when I was

younger, but there are only 24 hours in a day.



john h

mkIII

Rock House, OR

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:35 pm Post subject: New Firefly Video

On 9/21/2013 1:37 PM, t41pilot wrote:

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 I thought I would add a video to the available mix.  Flight with a Firefly here in Michigan on a cool evening with light winds.  We are fast running out of time here in the north.  I quit about the middle of October last year. I was already wearing a coat for this flight. Camera used was a Contour Roam mounted to my headset.

 http://youtu.be/fGq4gwImTcw



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 Gregg Kaat

 2011 Firefly

Love the helmet mounted camera. I always have an underlying frustration 
	


when watching a flight video done with a fixed camera, because the 

camera is rarely looking where I would be looking if I were flying the 

plane.



Keep up the good work!



Charlie

WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.co
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: New Firefly Video

Gregg,

  

 I'm no expert on the Part 103 rules for ultralight's, but I believe that  the 63 MPH limit is Air Speed, not ground speed.  So, whatever  tailwind benefit you get for a faster ground speed, does not effect a breaking  of the rule.  Really enjoyed your video.

  

 Bill  Varnes

Audubon, NJ

85 Kolb FireStar

  

  In a message dated 9/22/2013 2:53:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  t41pilot(at)frontier.com writes:

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		  I'm    operating as a legal ultralight.  I'm already flying at the legal    speed limits and then some with a tail wind. My ground speed on the    return trip from the Dam was 70 mph already on my GPS with my rpms at  5300.

    

    

	


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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:56 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

it is in man's nature to regulate themselves and especially the ones that  insist on having fun.>>

  

 Hi Larry,

 there is certainly some truth in that.  In the  UK we have specified microlights as being below a certain all up weight,and they  must have a stall speed less than a set figure. The stall speed must also  interact with the wing area to stop the development of high speed `lead  sleds`.

 This was the reason that the Extra was only  approved with vortex generators as without them the required low stall speed was  not attainable.

 Consequently we now have machines in the microlight  category which cruise happily with 2 up at over 100 mph on 11 litres an hour  with several hours range.

 Admittedly we are rather more regulated than you  but at least we do not have your problems with build/design quality.Particularly  in the second hand market. Any plane flying here will have had the build  quality checked during construction and the design will have been tested and  approved for engineering/aerodynamic  integrity.

 We have recently introduced another category of  very, very light weight and very relaxed rules. This is producing one or two  interesting designs.

 Although we moan at the restrictions and Europe  keep interfering when we look at other countries restrictions we are lucky. I  don`t think that Switzerland for instance allow any microlights at all unless  they have changes recently.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

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t41pilot

Joined: 05 Sep 2011
Posts: 38
Location: Howard City, Michigan

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: Re: New Firefly Video

Hello Bill.



Thanks for the kudos on my video.  It was my first attempt at using the Windows Movie Maker software that came free on my ancient yet still serviceable Computer. 



I believe you are right on part 103. It is the way I'm interpreting it anyway. My indicated airspeed is typically between 60 and 65 mph so I'm still at the limit anyway. The reason probably is that I'm only 150 pounds with my clothes on. I think I read somewhere that the never exceed speed for the firefly was 80 mph so a ground speed of 70 is fine with me. Don't really need to go much faster than that anyway. It's quick enough to get me to the pancake breakfasts in the area. Flew with a Super Cub a month ago on the way to one.  He had to dial in some flap to stay back with me but was a trooper and stayed with me about 15 minutes.  It was fun flying formation with somebody else. Wish I had somebody to fly with more often.

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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:22 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

I think I read somewhere that the never exceed speed for the firefly was 80 

mph so a ground speed of 70 is fine with me.>>



Sounds as though there is some confusion here.



In the fist place `I think I read somewhere.." is not good enough. Find out 

the real figure. Never Exceed speed is IMPORTANT.



BUT!. That is your AIRSPEED . Your speed over the ground has no relevance. 

Consider 50 on the clock plus 50 on the tail is 100 over the ground. 50 on 

the nose and you will go nowhere.

Stresses and strains on the a/c (which is what limiting speed is all about) 

are those associated with 50 airspeed. These are the same no matter what the 

wind is doing.



Very nice video.



Pat

Rex Rodebush

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 209
Location: Branson West area, Missouri

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:47 am Post subject: Re: New Firefly Video

Pat,



Just curious.  What was you stall speed with and without V.G.'s?



Rex

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:58 am Post subject: New Firefly Video

What was you stall speed with and without V.G.'s?>>



Hi,



Sorry, flew the Xtra by the seat of my pants for so long and now not flying 

at all I have forgotten the actual figure but the VG`s made at least 5 knots 

difference.#

Remember these are not MY figures but the figures produced by testing by the 

authorities. Without the VG`s the Xtra would not have been cleared in the UK 

as a microlight.

Microlight is  our nearest approximation to your ultralight category

Slightly more controlled than you but the upside is that microlights are 

treated in the same way as `normal` a/c and can fly under the same rules at 

any height and any speed. Only VFR but there is some talk of relaxing that 

for flight at night in the case of suitably equipped machines.



Cheers



Pat.

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