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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

After a 6 year hiatus, I'm back on the list. I'm looking for another CJ, so let me know what you have. Hello to all my old friends, and to those of you who don't know me.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

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" those of you who don't know me."
Ernest Martinez


YOU WILL.
Welcome back! Knew you could stay away from that radial stimulation in your bones?
Now we need to talk about that CJ thing...;^))
Just not over Tequila shooters at AYS!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Mine's for sale. This is no cast-off scruffy "cheap" plane, it's a well-maintained, frequently flown and excellent condition CJ.

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/NANCHANG-CJ-6A/1966-NANCHANG-CJ-6A/1293437.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Welcome back Ernie.
Dennis

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

contact me (at) 402.910.5247 Keith "Flipper" Harbour
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:07 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Bear.....looking for a stock CJ other than stainless exhaust, and baggage.

Doc......I've changed, now it'll be over bottles of Cabernet  Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Was up dude?
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Ernie
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:01 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Welcome back Ernie.

Walt

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After a 6 year hiatus, I'm back on the list. I'm looking for another CJ, so let me know what you have. Hello to all my old friends, and to those of you who don't know me.
Ernie
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ / CJ-6 FOR SALE in Europe. Reply with quote

CJ-6 FOR SALE :
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There is a nice CJ-6 for sale in Belgium / UK.
http://www.aviation-photocrew.com/Reports/2011/Photoflyingdays/foto/48.jpg
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=CJSA
It came from the States !

See link below for more info and to contact the owner :

http://www.matronics.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97195&highlight=

Cheers,

Etienne.
https://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Etienne%20landing%20in%20YVR.jpg

A few pics for the week-end Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

OMG! He's got couth! Pappy

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Bear.....looking for a stock CJ other than stainless exhaust, and baggage.

Doc......I've changed, now it'll be over bottles of Cabernet Wink


Ernie



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Ernie

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Welcome back Ernie,Try Rob Goodman 770-998-5868 he has his CJ for sale.
Doug Sapp

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:57 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Wassup Bill,

Thanks Walt,
Pappy.......Never mind Smile
Doug, thanks for the tip.

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[quote] Welcome back Ernie,Try Rob Goodman [url=tel:770-998-5868]770-998-5868[/url] he has his CJ for sale.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:02 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

So have I Ernie.
Doc

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[quote]Bear.....looking for a stock CJ other than stainless exhaust, and baggage.

Doc......I've changed, now it'll be over bottles of Cabernet Wink
Ernie



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Until AYS that is.
Doc

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[quote] OMG! He's got couth! Pappy

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Bear.....looking for a stock CJ other than stainless exhaust, and baggage.

Doc......I've changed, now it'll be over bottles of Cabernet Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Pete,

I like your paint job, it's exactly how I did mine. 
How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?


Was the ADF wiring removed? 
What prompted the prop replacement?
Any damage history?
What oil are you using?
Does it have schrader fittings?
What else is included in the sale?
Thanks
Ernie

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Mine's for sale. This is no cast-off scruffy "cheap" plane, it's a well-maintained, frequently flown and excellent condition CJ.

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/NANCHANG-CJ-6A/1966-NANCHANG-CJ-6A/1293437.htm

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I'll give you mine for a bag of magic beans and the name of 3 guys with military backgrounds that want to go in on an L-39.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

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The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated based on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U.S. since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last 22 years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that the plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the engine installation back in 2007 or so).

The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life. Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time I do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes across the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do all my maintenance based on tach hours.

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Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has original wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the original radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge them and make them into storage bins.

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I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I replaced the blades.

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Any damage history?


Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a search for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it).

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Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hour oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the oil change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Phillips. I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.

To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so it's great to
see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change interval."

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Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can include in the sale.

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It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff like that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Thanks,

I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures with those who were using Exxon.
WIll get back to you.
Ernie

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> How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
>


 The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated based on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U.S. since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last 22 years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that the plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the engine installation back in 2007 or so).

The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life. Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time I do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes across the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do all my maintenance based on tach hours.


> Was the ADF wiring removed?�
>


Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has original wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the original radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge them and make them into storage bins.


> What prompted the prop replacement?
>


I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I replaced the blades.


> Any damage history?
>


Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a search for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it).


> What oil are you using?
>


Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hour oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the oil change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Phillips. I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.

To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so it's great to
see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change interval."


>  Does it have schrader fittings?
>


Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can include in the sale.


> What else is included in the sale?
>


It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff like that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: I'm back and shopping for CJ Reply with quote

Sorry to butt in here guys, but....can you tell me more about the compressor failures??
 


 
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Thanks,

I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures with those who were using Exxon.


WIll get back to you.


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On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1(at)cox.net (pfdesign1(at)cox.net)> wrote:

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> How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
Quote:


 The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated based on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U.S. since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last 22 years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that the plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the engine installation back in 2007 or so).

The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life. Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time I do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes across the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do all my maintenance based on tach hours.


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Was the ADF wiring removed?�



Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has original wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the original radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge them and make them into storage bins.
Quote:
What prompted the prop replacement?


I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I replaced the blades.


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Any damage history?



Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a search for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it).
Quote:
What oil are you using?


Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hour oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the oil change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Phillips. I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.

To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so it's great to
see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change interval."
Quote:
 Does it have schrader fittings?


Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can include in the sale.
Quote:
What else is included in the sale?


It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff like that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
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