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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

I have been Reading the questions and issues with respect to the fuel gauge sender unit.

 

When I put it in I still had faith in the instructions and therefore put it, like the instructions told me to, under the raised seat/back headrest thing.

 

I did not use sealant (cos the instructions didn’t tell me to) but from the posts it appears I should have.  Also there have been a number of people suggesting that it would be a good idea to hoover out the tank before starting the engine.

 

I assembled the tank and put it into the cockpit module at least 5 years ago and haven’t put fuel in yet.

 

So what does the assembled wisdom advise?  Should I do nothing (wait and see)?  Should I cut the headrest off take the fuel sender out, hoover out, apply sealant and reassemble?  Or should I relocate to between the headrests?

 

I hate to think of cutting up the cockpit module but I gather it’s been done before …for example to take you split tanks.

 

Will

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richard collings

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:24 am Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

Will Hi . 

 As you have got this far I would suggest you flush out the tank with fuel  as well as you can using the two tank drains and buy yourself a large bag of  replacement filter screens and go with it. Watch the filters [the standard ones  under the seat] like a hawk and change very regularly for the first 50hrs. Also  after you have completed the test flight program I would make a point when  re-fuelling of filling up right to the top so that the whole of the inside has a  good flush.Loose tank material is translucent when wet with fuel which makes it  very difficult to see so if in doubt just change the filter. If like me you have  no valve between the fuel tank and the filter then buy a brake hose squeeze tool  £6 or £7 from Halfords makes the job easy.

 Also an after thought, have you got a fuel pressure gauge if not fit  one  £50 peace of mind and practice changing to reserve tank [different  filter].

   Good luck regards Richard

  From: William Daniell (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com) 

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I  have been Reading the questions and issues with respect to the fuel gauge sender  unit. 

  

When  I put it in I still had faith in the instructions and therefore put it, like the  instructions told me to, under the raised seat/back headrest  thing. 

  

I  did not use sealant (cos the instructions didn’t tell me to) but from the posts  it appears I should have.  Also there have been a number of people  suggesting that it would be a good idea to hoover out the tank before starting  the engine. 

  

I  assembled the tank and put it into the cockpit module at least 5 years ago and  haven’t put fuel in yet. 

  

So  what does the assembled wisdom advise?  Should I do nothing (wait and  see)?  Should I cut the headrest off take the fuel sender out, hoover out,  apply sealant and reassemble?  Or should I relocate to between the  headrests? 

  

I  hate to think of cutting up the cockpit module but I gather it’s been done  before …for example to take you split tanks. 

  

Will

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graeme bird

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: Re: fuel level sensor under the headrest

if its the airworld one; mine did leak slightly when the tank was up to the filler. I got in a right pickle when sorting it; forgetting (alter applying gue)  that the five holes have to align, in sender, gasket, tank and nut ring because although they appear equi-distant they are actually on three different pitches. I also dropped the ring nut into the tank and a screw (plonker).

If I had to do it again, I would buy 5 longer screws and replace the them one at a time allowing the sender and gasket to be lifted and a small amount of sealer to be applied from around the top. When replacing the with the right length screws I would add a small blob to each to seal the clearance hole and thread. Sealer is not required in the tank.



Also you should be aware that because of the tank shape the gauge will read non linearly and half full will be twenty something liters.

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Fred Klein

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:39 am Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:12 AM, graeme bird wrote:

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		  if its the airworld one; mine did leak slightly when the tank was up to the filler. I got in a right pickle when sorting it; forgetting (alter applying gue)  that the five holes have to align, in sender, gasket, tank and nut ring because although they appear equi-distant they are actually on three different pitches. I also dropped the ring nut into the tank and a screw (plonker).

If I had to do it again, I would buy 5 longer screws and replace the them one at a time allowing the sender and gasket to be lifted and a small amount of sealer to be applied from around the top. When replacing the with the right length screws I would add a small blob to each to seal the clearance hole and thread. 	




Excellent suggestions Graeme...thank you...Fred



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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:47 am Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

Graeme



Thanks



How on earth did you get at the blasted thing?   Through the little hole in

the headrest?



Will

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Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:47 AM, William Daniell wrote:

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		  How on earth did you get at the blasted thing?   Through the little hole in

the headrest?

	




Will...my hunch is that w/ a short Phillips head it would indeed be possible, but I won't be trying unless it proves to be a source of fuel fumes.



I've also concluded that given a proper guideline, my trusty little hacksaw w/ its free end would make short work of slicing off the back rest with a straight and tidy cut, and a 4 layer BID flange w/ a few nutplates would restore order promptly.

I'll save my agonizing for other occasions,

Fred

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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:32 pm Post subject: fuel level sensor under the headrest

The verdict is “wait and see” and keep a close watch on the filters

Thanks everyone

will

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:40

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Subject: Re: Re: fuel level sensor under the headrest

 

 

On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:12 AM, graeme bird wrote:





if its the airworld one; mine did leak slightly when the tank was up to the filler. I got in a right pickle when sorting it; forgetting (alter applying gue)  that the five holes have to align, in sender, gasket, tank and nut ring because although they appear equi-distant they are actually on three different pitches. I also dropped the ring nut into the tank and a screw (plonker).

If I had to do it again, I would buy 5 longer screws and replace the them one at a time allowing the sender and gasket to be lifted and a small amount of sealer to be applied from around the top. When replacing the with the right length screws I would add a small blob to each to seal the clearance hole and thread. 

 



Excellent suggestions Graeme...thank you...Fred



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