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N6ZY
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I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine. Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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max8992
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: Weight and Balance |
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Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com
Objet : Weight and Balance
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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ivanshaw(at)btinternet.co
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You could always add a ‘Zero fuel weight and c.g. onto the graph. This will show that you do not run out of the c.g. envelope as fuel is burnt, unlikely in a Europa but it is good practice to do this.
Ivan
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON
Sent: 09 November 2013 12:17
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Weight and Balance
Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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max8992
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: Weight and Balance |
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Graham, That’s exactly the way we use this sheet. And you’re right, it work for each and every plane I fly with including the 4S.
Ivan, yes that’s really a great advantage of our marvel!
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] De la part de Ivan Shaw
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 15:03
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com
Objet : RE: Weight and Balance
You could always add a ‘Zero fuel weight and c.g. onto the graph. This will show that you do not run out of the c.g. envelope as fuel is burnt, unlikely in a Europa but it is good practice to do this.
Ivan
From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON
Sent: 09 November 2013 12:17
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weight and Balance
Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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N6ZY
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I would like to thank those of you who responded to my request for a W&B sheet, it gave me the answers that I was hoping for.
Incidentally I just bought the XAvion App for my IPad. Among many other things, it enables you to very quickly input the W&B data before each flight, and gives a clear graphical indication of whether you meet the parameters, ready for any ramp check. For those of you in the US, it is really worth looking into for its safety factors, including automatically calculating where you can glide into in the event of an engine failure, together with full steering information, and a warning if you try to take off or land downwind. All for $100. Incredible.
Jerry
On Nov 9, 2013, at 7:16 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
[quote]Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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...and add the Levil wireless AHRS with air data (even with an option for ADSB weather and traffic) and one almost has a full (backup) panel and more. 
Cheers,
Pete
On Nov 9, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I would like to thank those of you who responded to my request for a W&B sheet, it gave me the answers that I was hoping for.
Incidentally I just bought the XAvion App for my IPad. Among many other things, it enables you to very quickly input the W&B data before each flight, and gives a clear graphical indication of whether you meet the parameters, ready for any ramp check. For those of you in the US, it is really worth looking into for its safety factors, including automatically calculating where you can glide into in the event of an engine failure, together with full steering information, and a warning if you try to take off or land downwind. All for $100. Incredible.
Jerry
On Nov 9, 2013, at 7:16 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
| Quote: | Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
List
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Does it also do density altituse, that's a common gotcha withspa,cans, (less so with Europa)
but it's still possible to get caught out on a hot day, full load and altitude, 200' feet was enough to almos
catch my friend out at Ecuvillance. I was RH seat, and we were over gross with a 912 UL.
Graham
From: Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com>
To: "europa-list(at)matronics.com" <europa-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 19:50
Subject: Re: Weight and Balance
...and add the Levil wireless AHRS with air data (even with an option for ADSB weather and traffic) and one almost has a full (backup) panel and more.
Cheers,
Pete
On Nov 9, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I would like to thank those of you who responded to my request for a W&B sheet, it gave me the answers that I was hoping for.
Incidentally I just bought the XAvion App for my IPad. Among many other things, it enables you to very quickly input the W&B data before each flight, and gives a clear graphical indication of whether you meet the parameters, ready for any ramp check. For those of you in the US, it is really worth looking into for its safety factors, including automatically calculating where you can glide into in the event of an engine failure, together with full steering information, and a warning if you try to take off or land downwind. All for $100. Incredible.
Jerry
On Nov 9, 2013, at 7:16 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
| Quote: | Max
thanks for the spread sheet. This is the only sensible way to do weight and balance. But!
one does need to check it thoroughly when its first written.
The same spreadsheet will work with any airplane. Just change the variable parameters and that's it.
Then before every flight fill in the variables like fuel quantity, crew weights, baggage and that's it.
Graham
From: Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2013, 7:25
Subject: RE: Weight and Balance
Hi Jerry,
Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps
Max Cointe
mcointe(at)free.fr (mcointe(at)free.fr)
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] De la part de Jeremy Fisher
Envoyé : samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46
À : europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Objet : Weight and Balance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher(at)gmail.com (jffisher(at)gmail.com)>
I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that
each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of
a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the
seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine.
Can anyone help?
Jerry Fisher
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: Weight and Balance |
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Graham,
There are a number of apps that will calculate density altitude. There are several E6B applications which do that along with the whole host of other E6B calculations.
Blue skies & tailwinds,Bob BorgerEuropa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP3705 Lynchburg Dr.Corinth, TX 76208-5331Cel: 817-992-1117rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)
On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:46 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com (grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
Does it also do density altituse, that's a common gotcha withspa,cans, (less so with Europa)
but it's still possible to get caught out on a hot day, full load and altitude, 200' feet was enough to almos
catch my friend out at Ecuvillance. I was RH seat, and we were over gross with a 912 UL.
Graham
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