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Sometimes even the pros get it wrong . . .

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Sometimes even the pros get it wrong . . . Reply with quote

About 9:30 local last night, a B747 variant (cargo
version) landed at Jabara Airport, about 8 miles short
of its intended destination.

http://tinyurl.com/ko4g9z9

Fortunately, our 'little' feeder field has 6,000 x 100
foot concrete and the airplane was able to get stopped
without further mishap. However, they are flying in
a special crew to take the airplane out about noon today.

One has to wonder how, with ALL the navigation capabilities
on board, did they manage to step in the bucket of
stinky stuff. Then too, how did 3 seasoned, 'certified'
pilots manage to land short in San Francisco last spring?

I'm reading complaints by many ATC rated pilots that
the evolution of operations philosophies is steadily
reducing their cockpit duties toward the condition of
being "along for the ride in a multi-million dollar
video game."

The advances in management of information has found
its way into cockpits of all sizes. Combinations of GPS,
dirt cheap microprocessors, Internet connectivity to
huge data bases and pocket sized touch screens has
opened the book on a wealth of information.

The relative ease with which we can expand cockpit
capabilities does not come without risks. It's common
knowledge that technology driven distraction of car drivers
is a demonstrably bad thing. In airplanes the risks
are compounded by an especially unforgiving nature of the
environment in which airplanes operate.

I ran across the pilot's operating 'handbooks' for
the C-120/140 series airplanes.

http://tinyurl.com/kkgkjlg

http://tinyurl.com/n2tfs6t
It's interesting how much the 'handbook' evolved over the
interval from certification to volume production.

. . . an excellent sample from the past . . . for an
airplane with NO cockpit distractions beyond dropping
a cigarette or spilling the coffee.

In no way would I suggest that the OBAM airplane builder
forsake real advantages for having useful bells and whistles
in the cockpit . . . I recall with fondness the discovery
that certain hand-held GPS receivers for under $150 would
function very well in airplanes . . .

http://tinyurl.com/n5d9zu2

I also recall the feeling of climbing into the first
rental fitted with GPS . . . and the 2" thick "Pilot's
Reference Manual" that went with it. I left the panel
mounted GPS OFF and dug my $200, dual-GPS nav system out of
the flight bag.

The point of this missive is to encourage the OBAM aviation
community to be wary of stacking a lot of cool capabilities
into their project's panel. In retrospect, I cannot imagine
any way I would use an airplane today that would become
less risky for having more 'stuff' on the panel than what
I was flying 13 years ago.

I humbly suggest that there is increased risk for adding
lots of stuff . . . stuff that becomes so complex or prone
to entry errors that the crew gets bad information . . . or
doesn't even bother to use it.

I'm quite certain that if the B747 pilots who landed at
the wrong airport last night had punched 37.623N/97.267W
into one of my $100 hand-held radios, they would not be giving
up their airplane to another crew tasked with extricating
it from the wrong airport.

Before you buy and bolt to your airplane, consider the
return on $investment$ along with potential for unhappy
distraction.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Sometimes even the pros get it wrong . . . Reply with quote

Definitions:

Certified: Endorsed by authorities as having met specific requirements or possessing certain qualities; e.g. " Certified Public Accountant", i.e., a person skilled at altering or destroying documents, ignoring or failing to investigate shell companies created by insiders who grotesquely enriched themselves while hiding mounting corporate debt in "off-balance-sheet companies"; Ignoring knowledgeable whistleblowers and accounting "red flags" that indicate massive fraud is taking place; misleading investors who continued pouring their money into failing companies. See “Enron”.

Certifiable: Determined to be insane or non compos mentis; e.g. “I know who I am. No one else knows who I am. If I was a giraffe, and someone said I was a snake, I'd think, no, actually I'm a giraffe.” - Richard Gere

Certificated: A person or object that has been judged to meet certain standards, e.g. “airworthiness” or as in “certificated flight instructor”. The term signifies that a printed official-looking paper (a “ticket”, slang for certificate) is somewhere to be found.

Discussion--The FAA is reasonably careful to avoid the word “certify” except in the sense of “swear to the truthfulness of” or “affirm”. For example:
“…you only have to certify that you have no medical defect…”
“You must certify the application form by reading, answering, signing, and dating….”
“…to certify the record is true and complete.”


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Sometimes even the pros get it wrong . . . Reply with quote

Bob,

You might be interested in a presentation given to AA pilots a while back called "Children of the Magenta." It can be found on YouTube. It talks about automation and it's effects on piloting skills.

Bob Sultzbach


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