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spaghettiohead(at)hotmail
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: A Couple Things... Reply with quote
Well, I passed my Commercial Multi/Instrument ride yesterday in Florida -
Yeehawww! I celebrated in First-Class on the flight back LoL - Flight
Attendants Love Pilots Wink so I got upgraded from steerage! Now it's off to
get 100 hrs multi and then my resume is in for Pilot w/my airline Smile

So, I also flew the 'Fox today for the first time in a few weeks and found
she wouldn't start...I figure it's the battery, so I just Hand-Propped it
(never have before), and she started right up quite nicely. I flew into
Manchester, a busy Class-C not far from here and shut-down for a few minutes
- yep, started right up. From there, I flew into a Class-D and shut-down,
and she wouldn't start back up! Tried hand-propping and all...ended up
jumping it with a pick-up. After we got her started, I flew into a buddies
grass-strip and shut-down - started right up!

Any ideas why I would be having intermittent battery problems like that?
Could it be the terminals, the battery itself? Is it normal to have problems
hand-propping a 582 w/C-Box??

Thanks!

Andrew

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torgemor(at)online.no
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: A Couple Things... Reply with quote
Hi Andrew,

congratulation with your multi engine / instrument certification, this is
-kind of "barrier" to pass.

-

Normally, a few weeks of resting for a lead acid battery should be "peace
of cake", however, if there is a leak, something in your el. system that
is draining the battery. The battery will soon loose it's capacity.

Use an ammeter to check that no current is drawn from the battery when the
master switch is in off position. If this is OK., then check the battery
electrolyte level (assuming that you're using a standard lead acid
battery) and add distilled water if nec.
Is there any deposit around the battery poles (terminals)? If there is,
remove this by using hot water, don't use any brushes to scrub this stuff
away, just hot water with a rag. This is the correct way to remove this
kind of oxidation. After everything is dried up, cover the terminals with
a tiny layer of light grease (Vaseline). This will protect the terminals
from oxidation. But if your terminals is clean, you don’t have to do
anything.

If this is OK,. check that your generator system has the correct voltage,
this will be around 13,5 V in the summertime with the normal load present,
radio transponder etc. The max. load for a 582 should not be much more
than 10 Amps.

If all of the above is OK., change your battery.

Good luck.

Torgeir.


On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:10:37 -0400, Andrew Matthaey
<spaghettiohead(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

<spaghettiohead(at)hotmail.com>

Well, I passed my Commercial Multi/Instrument ride yesterday in Florida
- Yeehawww! I celebrated in First-Class on the flight back LoL - Flight
Attendants Love Pilots Wink so I got upgraded from steerage! Now it's
off to get 100 hrs multi and then my resume is in for Pilot w/my airline
Smile

So, I also flew the 'Fox today for the first time in a few weeks and
found she wouldn't start...I figure it's the battery, so I just
Hand-Propped it (never have before), and she started right up quite
nicely. I flew into Manchester, a busy Class-C not far from here and
shut-down for a few minutes - yep, started right up. From there, I flew
into a Class-D and shut-down, and she wouldn't start back up! Tried
hand-propping and all...ended up jumping it with a pick-up. After we got
her started, I flew into a buddies grass-strip and shut-down - started
right up!

Any ideas why I would be having intermittent battery problems like that?
Could it be the terminals, the battery itself? Is it normal to have
problems hand-propping a 582 w/C-Box??

Thanks!

Andrew

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spaghettiohead(at)hotmail
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: A Couple Things... Reply with quote
Thanks Torgeir - I'll give those a look over when I head to the airport
tomorrow!

Andrew

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From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor(at)online.no>
Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: A Couple Things...
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:45 +0200



Hi Andrew,

congratulation with your multi engine / instrument certification, this is
-kind of "barrier" to pass.

-

Normally, a few weeks of resting for a lead acid battery should be "peace
of cake", however, if there is a leak, something in your el. system that is
draining the battery. The battery will soon loose it's capacity.

Use an ammeter to check that no current is drawn from the battery when the
master switch is in off position. If this is OK., then check the battery
electrolyte level (assuming that you're using a standard lead acid battery)
and add distilled water if nec.
Is there any deposit around the battery poles (terminals)? If there is,
remove this by using hot water, don't use any brushes to scrub this stuff
away, just hot water with a rag. This is the correct way to remove this
kind of oxidation. After everything is dried up, cover the terminals with a
tiny layer of light grease (Vaseline). This will protect the terminals from
oxidation. But if your terminals is clean, you don’t have to do
anything.

If this is OK,. check that your generator system has the correct voltage,
this will be around 13,5 V in the summertime with the normal load present,
radio transponder etc. The max. load for a 582 should not be much more than
10 Amps.

If all of the above is OK., change your battery.

Good luck.

Torgeir.


On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:10:37 -0400, Andrew Matthaey
<spaghettiohead(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
><spaghettiohead(at)hotmail.com>
>
>Well, I passed my Commercial Multi/Instrument ride yesterday in Florida -
>Yeehawww! I celebrated in First-Class on the flight back LoL - Flight
>Attendants Love Pilots Wink so I got upgraded from steerage! Now it's off
>to get 100 hrs multi and then my resume is in for Pilot w/my airline Smile
>
>So, I also flew the 'Fox today for the first time in a few weeks and found
>she wouldn't start...I figure it's the battery, so I just Hand-Propped it
>(never have before), and she started right up quite nicely. I flew into
>Manchester, a busy Class-C not far from here and shut-down for a few
>minutes - yep, started right up. From there, I flew into a Class-D and
>shut-down, and she wouldn't start back up! Tried hand-propping and
>all...ended up jumping it with a pick-up. After we got her started, I flew
>into a buddies grass-strip and shut-down - started right up!
>
>Any ideas why I would be having intermittent battery problems like that?
>Could it be the terminals, the battery itself? Is it normal to have
>problems hand-propping a 582 w/C-Box??
>
>Thanks!
>
>Andrew
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>
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>http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>

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